Steven - My husband is a financial advisor, so I'm forwarding your email to 
him.  He can respond to your points better than I.  My guess is that, in 
the main, he will agree with you.  I'm also guessing that he will tell you 
to do nothing with your TIAA-CREF fund.  Don't try to recoup the losses - 
they will recoup themselves as the market corrects itself.  By moving the 
money in and out of different funds you will only incur additional fees for 
commissions, thereby slowing down the process of regaining your 
losses.  Unethical brokers do this so that they will get additional 
commissions, but it is improper for them to do this (even if the client 
thinks that's what they want) and is known as "churning."  (I can't believe 
I know all this stuff!  I must really listen when he tells me this 
stuff!)  Naturally there are exceptions to this rule of thumb, and you have 
to have an advisor that you trust so that you can know when to listen to 
him/her and when you are being screwed.  This is the reason to have a 
financial advisor, not just a broker.  Brokers work for commissions, and so 
do planners, but there are differences.  A planner wants you to be his/her 
client forever, so they do what's best for you even if the commissions 
aren't as good in the short term.  Brokers don't think this way.  Also, 
brokers usually give everyone the same advice because they only think about 
individual stocks and mutual funds.  Planners have a collaborative role 
because they help you develop a complete financial plan that is tailored to 
your needs and anything that's done is based on this plan.They're more like 
counselors or consultants than salespeople.  (I REALLY can't believe I know 
all this stuff.  And I'm also surprised at how worked up I got over 
this.  Bottom line - don't listen to your broker, but do listen to your 
financial advisor (i.e., Matt.  You could transfer your account to him . . 
. I don't think that costs a commission.  And I'm only saying this because 
he is too modest to say it himself and I think he's the smartest advisor 
ever.  Plus, CREF doesn't have many personal advisors - just those phone 
people.  And I know this because Matt used to work for them.)  Any way, 
I'll forward your original email to him and some parts of this one to the 
list serve.  Don't tell him I got so carried away, okay?      Cindy M.


At 12:00 AM 1/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>TIPS Digest for Sunday, January 13, 2002.
>
>1. Re: Any stock advice?
>
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>Subject: Re: Any stock advice?
>From: Stephen Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:53:30 -0500 (EST)
>X-Message-Number: 1
>
>On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Richard Pisacreta, Ph.D. wrote:
>
> >
> > Any of you Tipsters study the stock market? Can you off the
> > rest of us any advice for next year to offset the terrible
> > returns of the last two years? Any of you in TIAA-CREFT
> > pension plans have any advice on how to distribute future
> > allocations?
>
>Perhaps we can justify this question on TIPS by suggesting it
>raises an important psychological question. This is why people
>allow themselves to be guided by experts who have no expertise. I
>speak of brokers and "financial advisors". If no one goes for
>this, I say, what the heck, it's a slow week-end on TIPS, and
>it's a fun question.
>
>My understanding is that the stock market is "efficient", which
>means that the price of a stock fairly represents all information
>available about the company and its prospects. Consequently,
>there are no bargains and no dogs. Aside from degree of risk, it
>doesn't matter which stock you choose. Forget analysis. I did a
>web search to confirm the above, and came up with an apparently
>authoritative analysis of the efficient market hypothesis at
>http://www.investorhome.com/emh.htm. Bottom line:
>
>"If markets are efficient and current prices fully reflect all
>information, then buying and selling securities in an attempt to
>outperform the market will effectively be a game of chance rather
>than skill."
>
>and
>
>"Many novice investors are surprised to learn that a tremendous
>amount of evidence supports the efficient market hypothesis"
>
>Corollaries:
>
>1) A monkey throwing darts at a page of stock listings will, on
>average, do just as well as the finest financial advisors money
>can buy. In fact, the Wall Street Journal runs such a contest
>yearly (using reporters rather than monkeys, about the same
>thing), This year, the dart method outperformed the experts (see
>http://www.onegroup.com/ReadingRoom/stockpick.asp)
>
>2) Never listen to a broker's recommendation. As they have no
>more ability to predict stock movement than anyone else, their
>recommendations will be based on how your choice can earn them
>the most money. Brokers are always conflicted. Consider why they
>prefer to earn commissions off you rather than putting their
>alleged expertise to work on their own behalf.
>
>3) With the exception of the above, never listen to
>anyone's advice on the stock market. They know as much as you,
>which is to say, nothing.
>
>4) Since stock-picking is futile, choose stocks that are fun to
>hold.  I like high-tech genetics companies. Not only is the
>science amazing, but the potential health benefits are
>staggering. The fact that they're all money-losing and likely to
>go bankrupt should only be mildly discouraging.
>
>-Stephen
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