I heard the story several times in graduate school from a couple of my
professors (Charles P. Thompson and Thad Cowan).  But never realized they
published it - Here is the reference.

Cognition. 1986 Mar; Vol 22(2): 199-200.

Doug Peterson
Assistant Professor of Psychology
The University of South Dakota
Vermillion SD 57069


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:05 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: Re: Brooklyn Dodgers & flashbulb memory

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 Annette Taylor wrote:

> Check Ulrich Neisser's book: Memory Observed. In it he reprints the
original
> Brown & Kulik paper along with some other ANECDOTAL evidence that perhaps
some
> of these are false.
>
> Quoting Charles Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > I thought I saw all this on TIPS, but nothing shows up in a search.
> > Can anyone supply the correct details and source?:
> >
> >    A classic illustration of "flashbulb memories" is "Where were
> > you when you heard that John F. Kennedy was assassinated?"
> >    A classic illustration of of a *false* "flashbulb memory" was
> > "I was at (or listening to a radio broadcast of) a Brooklyn
> > Dodgers game at Ebbets Field."  (The Dodgers had moved to Los
> > Angeles in 1957.)
> >    But then someone pointed out that the Brooklyn Dodgers *were*
> > still playing in Ebbets Field in 1963--the *football* Dodgers.

I can't resist a quick web search of my own whenever a question
like this comes up, and I think I may have gotten lucky.  It does
involve Neisser, but apparently indirectly.  If this is the
anecdote, it suggests a whole lotta reconstruction goin' on to
arrive at Charles' version. But the source still isn't fully
identified.

My source says:

Neisser's Critique

Neisser's critique of Brown and Kulik's hypothesis revolves
around four issues...For example, in his own account of the
attack on Pearl Harbor, Neisser reported that he was listening to
a baseball game on the radio. This could not be true, however,
because there are no baseball games in December! Interestingly,
Thompson and Cowan discovered serendipitously in an interview
with Red Barber that the two teams playing in the football game
that Neisser had been listening to were the Giants and the
Dodgers.

The reference is "Ericsson & Delaney (in press)". The url Google
located with this title is no longer there, but the item was
available in the cache. No date, no references.

Anyone recognize that text or "Thompson and Cowan"?

-Stephen

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