Chris- I hope I did not provoke you as that wasn't my intention. I indeed may have 
missed your point. I also think you are missing my point. 

You said:
"Freud's practices were common for medical people of his day. If you think that's 
"nonscientific" so be it, but it can't be used as a criticism of Freud, per se. It 
impugns the rest of medicine more or less to the same degree."

It impugns the rest of medicine indeed and to the same degree. Yes. But the fact that 
Freud was not outside of standard practice for his day does not mean we cannot 
criticise him and/or medicine for not being scientific. Medicine at that time did not 
meet the standards of scientific practice at that time. That is a fair statement or 
synopsis in my reading of philosophy of science written at that time. So yes I 
disagree specifically with your contention that we cannot criticise Freud for that. 
The fact that it impugns the whole of the medical field is, in my reading and 
understanding, not an unfair statement(as a whole- btw does not mean there weren't 
notible exceptions at that time) . 

You said: "Repeatability was not the issue. Controlled experimentation was. Again, 
you've mised my point, which was simply that "science" and "experiment" are not 
synonymous."

Ok. I see your point there and you are correct.  :)

Finally, "Note, just for instance, that humanistic psychology was to a large degree a 
simplified outgrowth of Continental existential philosophy. If you don't think 
existentialism was strongly influenced by psychoanalysis, go read Sartre again." 

Well, I think this is true but it wasn't my point. I said that it isn't logical to say 
humanistic psychology would not have occurred without Freud. If I seemed to imply that 
the specific set of curcumstances that resulted in the specific events that did occur 
wasn't influenced by Freud then I misspoke because that would indeed be silly to say 
that.
Tim

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Timothy O. Shearon, Ph.D.
Department of Psychology (Chairperson)
Albertson College of Idaho
Caldwell, Idaho

ph- 208-459-5840 

teaching interests: neuropsychology, history of psychology, developmental (topical), 
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