With admittedly less respect Louis, aren't employers likely to consider some
measure of performance when choosing applicants. It sounds like you've never
been on a search committee at your institution... but it is not only
impractical and impossible to invite all applicants for an interview (as it
appears you would propose), it would really be quite silly and potentially
unethical.
And whether you approve or not, the reality is that grades (as well as other,
related indicators) are used for decisions about graduate school. Some of my
students have aspirations for graduate work and NEED the reminder that "C"s and
"B"s are NOT good enough (for competitive programs anyway). I would consider it
UNETHICAL to profess anything else.
My students know that I don't think grades are the end-all (and I would find it
insulting if anyone would assume that to be my view or the view of anyone on
this list). But there certainly needs to be a balance between thinking grades
are everything (which btw, I do not believe) and believing that they mean
nothing. Wouldn't you agree?

We can all be fanciful and idealistic I suppose (and that certainly doesn't
need to come from "on high"), but I value success for myself and I desire
success for my students. That requires me and my students to have at least one
foot in reality. Geez.

With all that being said... I'm a bit disappointed in myself now. I've broken
the promise to myself to ignore unrealistic, impractical and useless messages
to this list... unless they are is the spirit of humor.

Sincerely,
-S



Louis_Schmier wrote:

> With all due respect, Steven, aren't you merely showing them the supposed
> importance of grades and assuming that the higher the grades the greater
> the skills.  The research does not support that assumption.
>
> Make it a good day.
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