This is one reason I don't do anything with grades over email.
Marte
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Doug- Perhaps the contrary. This is exactly the kind of mistake I make now (as full
professor) that I don't remember ever making at lower rank. (Perhaps that is just a
mistake of memory!). I have a coffee mug that has printed on it, "To err is human. . .
To really screw things up you need a computer (2.3 million times per second)". :)
We've all been there! Tim Shearon
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From: Peterson, Douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 2/24/2004 2:38 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
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Subject: OOPS!
I don't know what the student in this grade report would call me but clearly
I didn't earn the title Professor, Dr. or Mr. with that boneheaded mistake.
I inadvertently pasted and hit send in the wrong e-mail. Multi-tasking is
obviously something I need to work on!
Doug
Doug Peterson
Associate Professor of Psychology
The University of South Dakota
Vermillion SD 57069
(605) 677-5295
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From: Peterson, Douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 3:35 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: RE: Don't Call Me Mister
USD Women's Softball Student-Athlete
Spring Grade Report 2
Feb. 24, 2004
Mollie Witherbee
At this point in the semester we are running an academic check on our
student-athletes. In the spaces below please evaluate the student's letter
grade and percentage for work accomplished to date. This student has given
permission under the Buckley Amendment for me to check into her grade
status.
If there is anything that our office can do to improve the teaching/learning
opportunities for this student or any other student-athlete, please contact
me at 677-6587 or e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for your time.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * *
I would appreciate it if you could e-mail me the following information
regarding her performance in the following class: PSYC 101____________
1) Attendance: # of unexcused absences to date __0__
2) Letter grade to date: __A__
3) Participates in class: Yes or No
4) Any Problems/concerns to date: _NONE_____
Doug Peterson
Associate Professor of Psychology
The University of South Dakota
Vermillion SD 57069
(605) 677-5295
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From: John W. Nichols, M.A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:01 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: Re: Don't Call Me Mister
Obviously, "Mister" is not only acceptable, but also appropriate in my
case. I have no problem with it being used.
I used to tell my students (back in the old days when I actually saw
them) they could call me "Mister", "Professor", or "Master" * anything
except "Dr.". When asked what the M.A. stands for, I respond "Master of
All things" (which, while true, seems to let them know that I am not too
concerned about degreeism).
I do not like for students to call me "John". That suggests a degree of
familiarity that I do not care for since ours is a professional
relationship. It is just my opinion * but it is my educated opinion *
that teachers (like parents) should not be their friends. We worked
hard to become what we are. We have earned, and deserve, respect for
what we have done and what we do. That, of course, assumes that one
respects learning, knowledge and education. Using first names does not
show respect. (OK, true, it is not that hard to become a parent. It
is, in fact, more fun than work. Parents, however, still deserve
respect.)
I was raised in a military family. I would have never even considered
not saying "Sir" or "My-yam" (I was also raised in the far, deep South)
when addressing an adult. Even today, I use the terms when addressing a
superior or senior person. I do not view it as a demeaning thing for me
to do but, rather, as simply a proper display of respect. (I have been
known to use other terms when respect was absent.)
Again, it is only my opinion (though I know I am right), that many of
the problems seen in schools (and families) today result from a failure
to teach students (and children) to show proper respect for those who
deserve it by their effort, actions or status. If students do not
respect their teachers, I seriously doubt that they can be expected to
respect and appreciate what they are taught. I suggest that lack of
respect is a large part of the cause for innumeracy as well as ignorance
about geography, science, history, and so many other subjects we teach.
Is there an academic subject in which American students rank 1st in the
world? I think that the effort to be friends and to be informal is
misguided and actually contributes to the problem.
(I have certainly seen ample evidence of lack of respect and
appreciation for parents in many young people in recent years. Too
little respect, parents who want to be friends of their kids, and
excessive self-esteem, are to blame. That is just my opinion, of
course.)
I do not become violent when a student addresses my by my first name. I
do, however, become wary of their motivation and I think a bit less of
them and their upbringing.
My solution to the problem of how to sign emails is pretty simple. I do
not sign individual emails. I use a .sig file on all of my professional
accounts, just like the one below. That seems to me to be sufficient.
It shows all of the necessary information, in a properly formal way, for
a professional relationship. That is how I view our relationship with
students.
> "Karl L. Wuensch" wrote:
>
> Freshmen in my intro class often call me 'Mister,' which I don't
> like. I prefer first names, but if they must be formal, I prefer
> 'Professor' or 'Doctor.' I found a brief discussion of this put up by
> UCF, at
>
http://www.ucfnews.com/news/2003/06/25/Lifestyles/Whats.In.A.Name.How.To.Add
ress.A.Professor.In.Class-440611.shtml .
> Do you all speak to your freshman about how to address professors?
>
> http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/Professor.htm
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Karl L. Wuensch, Department of Psychology,
> East Carolina University, Greenville NC 27858-4353
> Voice: 252-328-4102 Fax: 252-328-6283
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Tulsa Community College
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