Gene Walker wrote:
 
Chris: I think you misread Debbie's comments. She said she was in the =
Baby box as an alternative to a crib which is what Skinner repeatedly =
said.
No, I don't think I did. The confusion I spoke of was not Deborah's but rather that of those who claim she was "raised" in a Skinner box (plus a subordinate confusion by many "apologists" for Skinner who counter no child of Skinner's was ever in any kind of "box").

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Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 11:41 AM
Subject: Skinner's two boxes

Re: Deborah Skinner's reply to the feview of Slater's book.  http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1167653,00.html

It sounds like the same old stuff -- primarily confusing the "Skinner box" with Skinner's "other" box,  the "baby box" (which had no conditioning element). The latter box did indeed exist. Skinner even tried to market it (unsuccessfully) and it was written up in one of America's major magazines (Look or Life, I think. I can't recall at present). There is a recent article by Alexandra Rutherford on the "baby box," probably in _History of Psychology_, though I am not certain.

I would be surprised if Deborah were *never* placed into the "baby box," but I have no reason to disbelieve her (except that she would have been a baby and presumably have no recollection of it). The primary confusion really has to do with whether Skinner "theories" (he rejected the term) were ever "tested" on her in the baby box. Since it was intended mainly as a comfortable place for baby to nap while Mom (this was the 1950s, after all) got on with other things, her interests would probably be better served by explaining (again) the distinction between the two boxes than by getting on her defensive high horse about it.

Regards,

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Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

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