I don't teach about Piaget because I just run out of time. I also tend to focus on people that contributed to psychology that other courses are not likely to mention and/or are important for starting that particular movement. For example, I cover over Hall and Baldwin as beginning developmental psych. I really don't cover Freud too much, but focus on the factors that influenced his thinking.

At 11:28 AM 3/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
TIPsters,

I am curious to hear your opinions about the place of Piaget in a History and Systems course. My immediate reason for asking is because of a (relatively friendly) argument with my department chair. I have been teaching History and Systems for years, and I do not include Piaget. My chair, a developmentalist "cannot conceive of a course in H&S without Piaget." The fact that many H&S textbooks do not include Piaget does not seem to sway him.

Here is my justification for excluding Piaget:

1) It don't think Piaget fits the structure of my course. I teach a very traditional (E.G. Boring influenced) course in which I trace the "main line" of psychological history, but I do not trace the history of the branches. In my own area, I of course cover Watson and Skinner, but I would never cover Herrnstein. Watson and Skinner are main line, Herrnstein is speciality material belonging in a behavioral course but not an H&S course. I similarly view Piaget as being out of the mainstream. He belongs in a development course, but not a mainstream H&S course.

To this. my chair responds that Piaget has had a tremendous influence in mainstream psychology - for example, he cites Piaget as a major contributor to the cognitive revolution. Which brings us to argument #2:

2) Piaget's work was "discovered" by mainstream psychology far too late to have had a real historical influence. Piaget's work wasn't really recognized until the mid 1960s, by which time the cognitive revolution was well under way. Though some Piagetian terms do show up in cognitive (for example, schema) they often mean very different things.

This is not a really big deal - there isn't anything riding on the resolution. I am just curious to hear opinions.

-- Jim Dougan


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