Tom,
Take a look at http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen01/gen01404.htm. Be sure to 
read both answers. The first answers indicates that the illusion won't happen under 
steady lighting. The second answer indicates how the illusion could happen under that 
condition. 
Hope it helps
Dennis

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From: Tom Allaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:40 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: A Perception Question



    In a class discussion of the phi phenomenon the other day, the talk
drifted around to stroboscopic phenomena, and the
"wagon-wheels-turning-backward" illusion that you get with films or TV.
I explained this briefly, but several of my students said that it didn't
depend on a flashing or intermittent source of illumination, as they
frequently saw this effect in broad daylight, on the wheels of moving
cars (especially those with wire wheels).  I told them I didn't
understand how that could be.

    Can you get this illusion under continuous illumination?  How?




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