And while we're on the subject of optical illusions, I've done a 
follow-up to our discussion of the wagon wheel effect.

If you recall, Purves et al (1996) reported that the wagon wheel 
effect, contrary to expectation, occurs with a continuous light 
source, such as under artificial illumination with a filtered DC 
source, and in daylight. They suggested this revealed important 
information concerning the way in which the visual system processes 
information.  Alas,  Pakarian & Yasamy (2003) reported a failure to 
replicate their finding. I also was unable to see the wagon-wheel 
effect using my spinning bicycle wheel outdoors, although it was 
readily apparent indoors under fluorescent light.

So I wrote to Dale Purves and received a cordial reply. However,  he 
asked that I not post it here, as he was understandably concerned 
that this might encourage numerous others to bug him by e-mail on the 
issue. He had no objection to my summarizing its contents, however.

Briefly, he was dismissive of the P & Y effort, stating that the 
phenomenon has been repeatedly confirmed. In his view, the question 
is no longer whether the effect exists in continuous light, but why. 
However he did seem to backtrack on the claim in his paper that the 
effect is easily seen under natural circumstances in daylight (with 
"automobile wheel covers, airplane propellers, jet engine fans", and 
with a radial pattern on a record player). Instead he now says that 
the speed "has to be just right" and therefore is best observed under 
laboratory conditions. 

Also, in response to the claim in his paper that  "all the effects we 
observed were equally evident in sunlight", he told me that this 
meant when illuminated only by daylight coming through the window.

Given all of this, I still wonder why P & Y and I failed to observe 
it under continuous daylight illumination. Purves believes his 
systematic observations under "highly-filtered DC" are the definitive 
ones, but since these must be derived from converted AC, perhaps 
there is just enough flicker left to induce the illusion. So I trust 
observations in daylight more, and he seems not to have 
systematically studied the phenomenon using this form of 
illumination.

I also question the premise that I didn't see the effect because the 
speed is critical. In my attempt, I let the spinning wheel coast to a 
stop, and so observed over a wide range of speed. The effect appeared 
consistently at a set of critical speeds under fluorescent but not 
under daylight.

Another possibility, given the failure of at least one person on our 
thread  to fail to see the "rotating snakes" illusion, is that there 
exists individual, perhaps ethnic differences in ability to see the 
wagon-wheel effect in daylight. While 11 of 12 observers in North 
Carolina saw the illusion, 0 of 15 saw it in Iran. But where does 
that leave me, neither North Carolinian nor Iranian? So I think the 
individual differences explanation is unlikely. But I would like to 
hear from anyone, anywhere, who can reliably observe the effect under 
daylight.

Sometimes discrepancies between different observers can lead to 
important insights (and sometimes to the firing of astonomers). I 
hope someone is looking into this. Actually, Dr. Purves gave me the 
name of someone who is, and I think I'll try bugging him as well.

Stephen

References

Pakarian, P., & Yasamy, M. (2003). Wagon-wheel illusion under steady 
illumination: real or illusory? Perception, 32, 1307-1310
(available from the author at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Purves, D. et al (1996). The wagon wheel illusion in movies and 
reality. Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, 93, 3693-
3697 (available at  www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/93/8/3693.pdf

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