Nina- Fluent? We usually say the speech of Werniche's aphasia is articulate (understandable in terms of words being actual words each spoken clearly and correctly). Fluent implies structure and that it makes sense which it doesn't. And they fail to understand both their own and others verbal utterances although that may or may not improve a little or a lot with time(how's that for hedging!?). If they are interested the Broca's patients do understand speech but only simple and direct sentences. A sentence like, "Bill through hay over the fence," is fine. If you say, "Bill threw his horse over the fence a bail of hay," they would be completely flummoxed (as opposed to the speaker of such a sentence who is confusing). :) The Wernicke's patient wouldn't understand either type of sentence but may understand simple and direct verbal commands- especially if accompanied by gestures etc. Does that make sense? Tim S.
_________________________________________________ Timothy O. Shearon, PhD Albertson College of Idaho 2112 Cleveland Blvd. Caldwell, ID 83605 [EMAIL PROTECTED] teaching: History and systems; Intro to Neuropsychology; Child Development; Physiological Psychology; Psychology and Cinema -----Original Message----- From: DeVolder Carol L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 6:56 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: question from student Hi Nina, A couple of very rushed answer to your questions--when someone has damage to Wernicke's area, they very often cannot understand their own speech, so they don't comprehend what it is they've said--hence a very garbled form of speech comes forth. In other words, they are fluent, but their speech is meaningless. If all of the billions of sodium-potassium pumps were not working, the person would be dead. Hope these make sense, gotta rush to class, I'm sure someone else will be able to proved more concise and coherant answers. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Nina Tarner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:23 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: question from student Hi all, We were discussing Wernicke's Area in Intro. the other night and a student said that if damage to Wernicke's Area meant the person could not understand spoken language did that mean they couldn't even understand themselves? I think they were referring to when a person talks to themslelves in their own mind. Another student question that was asked in which I couldn't answer was what would happen if a person's sodium-potassium pump was not working? What would happen to the positive sodium ions and negative potassium ions? Thanks for any help you can provide, Nina --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
