Aubyn Fulton commented: > > > In my experience Freud has never been much more than a > > marginal figure within American academic psychology - and barely more than > > that within most currents of American clinical psychology.
And Allen E. replied: > No one argues that Freud remains influential in current academic > psychology or academic clinical psychology. But I think a check on the > historical record will show that Aubyn is mistaken when he writes (18 Oct) > that Freud has never been much more than a marginal figure in most > currents of American clinical psychology I'm not sure about the qualifier "academic" but I'm willing to argue that Freud remains influential in clinical psychology. Two disturbing illustrations of the continuing negative influence of Freudian pseudoscience on the practice of clinical psychology: i) the extraordinary madness of the recovered memory movement which took the Freudian concept of repression to new heights of absurdity and, in the process, caused serious harm to many.Only a few years ago, acceptance of this outrageous therapy was widespread in clinical psychology. ii) the continuing use of Freudian-inspired projective tests in clinical psychology, especially the notorious Rorschach, despite ample evidence that they are entirely lacking in scientific validity. Allen also wrote: >in my > experience even people unsympathetic to Freudian notions do not appreciate > just how much of the story of psychoanalysis that became received history > in Western culture is either wholly or largely false. Insofar as I have a > "mission" in relation to my contributions on Freud it is disabuse people > of some of the false notions that are commonplace among educated people I agree. The name of Freud continues to command undeserved respect, even among people who should know better, as for example in the "neuroscience proves Freud was right" claims we've discussed here. Scholars like Allen provide a valuable service in exposing the myths of Freudianism widely believed in Western culture. Go get 'em, Allen! Stephen ___________________________________________________ Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. tel: (819) 822-9600 ext 2470 Department of Psychology fax: (819) 822-9661 Bishop's University e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lennoxville, QC J1M 1Z7 Canada Dept web page at http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy TIPS discussion list for psychology teachers at http://faculty.frostburg.edu/psyc/southerly/tips/index.htm _______________________________________________ --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
