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My problem with this situation is the term "subjective multiplier". I think that it's fine to make class participation part of the grade, but students should have a right to know what part and how it is calculated. If I can "subjectively" move you from an A to an F then why have a grading system at all?
 
-Don
 
Don Allen
Psychology Dept.
Langara College
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Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: grading system described on syllabus

Hi,
 
I think this thread is bad for my blood pressure.
 
If the syllabus had the expectation of class participation and the student did not fulfill that expectation, I don't think that he or she has a leg to stand on. Have we degenerated to a bunch of torte lawyers nitpicking through the words of a syllabus to find excuses for inferior class behavior.. Who would not understand that there would be consequences for not fulfilling a stated course expectation?
 
Mel King
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From: Julie Penley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:22 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: Re: grading system described on syllabus

Joe,
I had the same experience in a graduate-level class.  Several students knew about this professor's subjectivity (having experienced it first-hand), but no one was able to successfully appeal their grade.  If the syllabus is clear and there is in fact a violation of it, I agree that she needs to take it up the university's chain of command with full documentation of her points earned in hand.
Julie
 
Julie A. Penley, Ph.D.
El Paso Community College
El Paso, TX
 

"Hatcher, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi colleagues,
        I have had an issue come up with a former student now at another university.  The professor detailed in the syllabus the points required for grades, and stated that class participation would be expected, though this was not mentioned as affecting the grade.  My student was given a grade lower than her points dictated, and the professor defended this by noting that a "subjective multiplier" had been applied based, apparently, on classroom participation.

        My student is in a difficult position.  I am wondering, first of all, what the defenses are for such a system of grading and, second, if you have any advice I can pass on to my student.

Joe Hatcher
Ripon College
Ripon, WI 54971
USA
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