I am still reading some of R. Hake's "references" and exploring others. 
I think the issues are important and there are many politicized
viewpoints out there.  Richard's thinking and work in this area is
admirable, but the rhetoric and lack of integrative voices insures
chaos.  Some of the discussion on assessment resembles children arguing
in their sandbox.  At times you just want a responsible adult to come
along a help the kids play more cooperatively and constructively.  
  I would like to see simple routes to basic empirical studies.  I have
no problem with pre-post methods (if subjects remain equivalent),
independent assessment of content (declarative) and longitudinal
assessment of conceptual understanding with convergent measures.  Gary
Peterson

Saginaw Valley State University




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