I agree with Chris. Overmier is right. It is too bad that Overmier doesn't have a ghost of a chance of being elected. I knew Bruce Overmier at Minnesota in the early 70's. He led a brown bag lunch seminar in learning that was absolutely and totally inspiring. At the time, he and Seligman were having a disagreement concerning the meaning of the failure of dogs to be trained in avoidance learning subsequent to being subjected to aversive pavlovian conditioning. Bruce conceived of it as "fear robbery" while Mr. S., of course, wanted to call it "learned helplessness". Bruce wanted to stay close to the data and didn't want to speculate about what appeared to be cognitive processes proposed by Seligman. We know who won that one, but I was completely impressed by Overmier's refusal to stray from the data, and Seligman's desire to make it into something it was not. Striking a chord in the public (or general psychological readership) with the description seemed to be more important for Mr. S., in my humble opinion. Which of the two would become president of apa? We know the answer. Not both.

Bill Scott

Christopher D. Green wrote:

I would like to draw attention to J. Bruce Overmier's APA presidential candidate's statement in the May issue of AP Monitor. It seems to me that he gets everything just about right with respect to what's currently wrong with the APA. Have a look when you get a chance.

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Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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