In her TIPS post of 23 Jun 2005 titled "Re: assessing teaching of
research methods," Annette Taylor wrote:

"There is a large literature on individual course, as well as program
assessments in the ¨hard¨ science literatures and in the education science
literature. For whatever reason, our friend Hake. . .[2005a]. . .
does make a good point in challenging us as psychologists to
seriously approach such assessments. . . . Perhaps it behooves us,
who  are at least interested in our teaching enough to subscribe to
such list  discussion services to take a leadership role in
development of outcomes  assessments."

I wonder how many psychologists present courses on research methods
in the time honored chalk-and-talk style?

In a recent IT-Forum post of 24 Jun 2005 titled "Research that shows
chalk-and-talk is ineffective?" Mark Peterson (2005) asked three good
questions Q1,2,3 that I repeat below followed by my answers A1,2,3
(with apologies to those who have heard these answers many times
before):

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Q1. Does anyone know of any research to support [the ineffectiveness
of chalk-and-talk]?

A1. Good evidence for the relative ineffectiveness of the traditional
chalk-and-talk lecture, insofar as promoting student understanding in
**conceptually difficult areas**, comes from physics education
researchers (PER's) who have shown that "interactive engagement" (IE)
methods CAN produce average normalized pre/post test gains in
conceptual understanding (as measured by the valid and consistently
reliable "Force Concept Inventory" [Hestenes et al. (1992)] that are
about two standard deviations greater than those achieved in
traditional (T) courses.

Here:

(a) IE methods are  those designed at least in part to promote
conceptual understanding through interactive engagement of students
in heads-on (always) and hands-on (usually) activities that yield
immediate feedback through discussion with peers and/or instructors.

(b) T courses utilize passive-student lectures, algorithmic problem
exams, and recipe labs.

(c) The average normalized gain <g> for a course is the actual gain
 [<%post> - <%pre>] divided by the maximum possible gain [100% -
<%pre>], where the angle brackets indicate the class averages. See
e.g. Hake (1998a,b; 2002a,b) and references therein to the research
of many other groups in many different institutions that have shown
similar results.

BTW, as I have pointed out many time on both the TIPS [Hake (2005a)]
and PsychTeacher lists, I know of no definitive pre/post testing that
might gauge the relative effectiveness of different methods of
psychology teaching. In Hake (2005a) I wrote (see that post for the
references):

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I regard the apparent failure of psychologists to research the
effectiveness of their own introductory courses as an important issue
in education research because, among other things:

(1) One might expect psychologists with their long history of
education research [Berliner (1993), Lagemann (2000)] and their
leading role in classroom-oriented "Design Based Research" [Kelly
(2003); Hake (2004a,b; 2005a)] to be in the vanguard of those
actively researching the effectiveness of own courses and thus
serving as role models for other faculty.

(2) Educational psychologists often staff the "Teaching and Learning
Centers" of U.S. universities and thus might (but generally do not)
influence faculty to research the cognitive effectiveness of their
courses through valid and consistently reliable diagnostic tests
developed by disciplinary experts, rather than through the usual
problematic [Hake (2002)] student evaluations.

(3) Psychologists and psychometricians seem to be in control of the
U.S. Dept. of Education's "What Works Clearinghouse"
<http://www.w-w-c.org/> and NCLB testing of "science achievement" to
commence in 2007 [see Hake (2005b)].
Why should they be the arbiters of "What Works," when, as far as I
know, they haven't even bothered to research "What Works" in their
own courses?
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



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Q2. Are there researchers out there advocating for the chalk-and-talk
traditional style lecture?

A2. As far as I know there are no *serious* researchers who advocate
chalk-and-talk traditional style lecture for conceptually difficult
instructional areas (even despite the rampant misinterpretations of
the work of David Klahr - for a discussion see Hake (2005b).
Nevertheless, a powerful direct instruction lobby, led by the likes
of Douglas Carnine (2000) [on the Technical Advisory Group for the
U.S. Dept. of Education's "What Works Clearinghouse
<http://www.w-w-c.org/>] currently appears to be influential in the
U.S. Dept. of Education [see e.g., Hake (2005b)].

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Q3. Is it generally accepted amongst open-minded people that
[chalk-and-talk] is not the right approach?

A3. It is certainly the case that it is generally accepted amongst
open-minded physics education researchers that chalk-and-talk is not
the right approach *in conceptually difficult* areas. Nevertheless, I
would guess that 80 or 90 percent of physics professors - yes, even
at Indiana University -  continue to use the time-honored
chalk-and-talk method, even despite the fact that it has been
abandoned in introductory physics courses at Harvard [Crouch & Mazur
(2001) and MIT (Dori & Belcher (2004)]. As MIT mechanical engineering
professor Woodie Flowers (2000) says "Why change, Been doin' it this
way for 4000 years! . . .[with a brief hiatus for the historical -
non-Platonic - Socrates]"

Of course, traditional chalk and talk may still be beneficial in some
non conceptually difficult areas. In Hake (2003) I wrote [bracketed
by lines HHHHHH. . . ." :

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As regards the rather polarized Physhare discussion on whether
lectures are GOOD or BAD, I think it all depends on the subject
matter, the nature of the students, and the goals of the teacher. As
indicated in Hake (2002d), a major strength of the Paideia (2005)
Method is its use of different approaches to fit the occasion
(didactic lectures, coaching, and Socratic dialogue). Each method has
its strengths and weaknesses but in the hands of a skilled teacher it
can be made to compliment the other methods so as to advance student
learning. A skilled teacher might LECTURE on material that can be
rote memorized [but s(he) might be better off using the Gutenberg
Method [Morrison (1986), Hake (2002c)] that recognizes the invention
of the printing press], COACH skills such as typing or playing a
musical instrument, and use SOCRATIC DIALOGUE (or some other IE
method) to induce students to construct their conceptual
understanding of Newton's Laws.
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
24245 Hatteras Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~sdi>


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