Dear colleagues, I'm not particularly pleased about the rumor mill. Nevertheless, the only time I personally know that this happened in the five years I've been at JC was during midterm this fall (when we have to compute, enter, and submit midterm grades -- in effect, we have two grade submission flurries each semester). An instructor had computed AND ENTERED her midterm grades on the web, but had not turned in the hard copy. The hard copies were in the outgoing campus mail pile in her department's office, but had not been sent on their appointed rounds, so to speak. So, on a Monday morning at around 10 a.m. -- grades due at 9 -- the phone calls started to her office, her home, her husband, and then spiraled out from there. The interesting thing is that one of our adjunct faculty members has never turned in midterm grades, and no phone call flurries occur to prompt that individual. While that may "feel" strange, you should see our Faculty Manual... not that I'm complaining.
Regards, Mary -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marc Perreault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:43 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: Time for final grades RESULTS Hi Mary, This is quite interesting... the rumor mill. I guess we could call it social pressure. But it "feels" strange. A College using "peer pressure" to discipline its staff? It seems to me there could be more "formal" procedures in place. After all, some instructors may not be concerned at all about what others think of them. In such cases (and I can think of one or two where I come from) what will be done to get marks on time? As I said, I'm not aware of any due process where I work. Looks like we're not the only ones... Cheers! Jean-Marc Perreault Instructor, Psychology Yukon college Whitehorse, Yukon (867)-668-8867 -----Original Message----- From: Mary Devitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 4, 2006 9:28 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: Time for final grades RESULTS At Jamestown College, when instructors are late turning in grades, the Registrar, and then the Academic Dean, begin by looking for the "offender." Then, the Dean calls the individual. Then the Dean calls everyone the individual knows. (The rumor mill takes over from there.) Mary -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marc Perreault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:59 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: Time for final grades RESULTS Comparison is always good (well, unless you happen to be at the very end, I guess). I thought my institution was WAY behind in terms of technology... I guess I now feel somewhat better about it. We get to enter our own grades over the internet, and about 20 minutes later, students can access them over the web as well. We are technically given 5 days after each Final exam to submit our marks (week-ends do not count...!), but with this being said, I know many instructors who have been as late as 3 weeks and nothing has ever been done about it. So this leads me to the following question: What happens in your institution if an instructor is late submitting his/her grades? (I should mention that I have never been late submitting mine, but with the amount of time that is given us, there is not much there, really...). Cheers! Jean-Marc Perreault Instructor, Psychology Yukon college Whitehorse, Yukon (867)-668-8867 -----Original Message----- From: Annette Taylor, Ph. D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 3, 2006 10:22 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: Time for final grades RESULTS I guess we are in the stone age again :( We use these really horrible scantrons on which I very often make mistakes because the lines get all jumbled up in my age-related fading vision. I have to use a ruler firmly applied across each line to be sure I have blacked in the circles correctly to correspond to the handwritten grade, which is written in at least 6 or 7 inches of line away. Two semesters ago I got them all off by one after about the 3rd or 4th one and you can bet students were calling immediately about their grades if they were too low. Funny, no one called when they were too high.... Annette Quoting "Shearon, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rick- We also submit our grades directly (webAdvisor). But our > students have to wait for a "release" from the registrar. I think the > story is that we did it that way so that errors made by faculty (naw- > that couldn't happen!) wouldn't show up (or at least not till we had > some time to catch them!). It is SOOOO much easier to do grading on > line. I really appreciate the reminder that some places still depend > on hand written or machine submitted grades. Happy New Year!!! Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Froman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue 1/3/2006 8:44 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences > Subject: RE: Time for final grades RESULTS > > Yes, we also submit the grades directly ourselves and students have access > to them as soon as we submit them. That was one thing that got me thinking > of this question because our grades are now due on Monday at 5:00 when, not > too long ago, they weren't due until Wednesday. Since that time and now, the > procedure went from the Registrar's office entering the grades to us > entering the grades directly. So it seemed a little strange that the > Registrar's office said they needed the grades in earlier. But, given the > responses I got, in the larger scheme of things, I am happy with the time I > have. Thanks, > > Rick > > Dr. Rick Froman > Professor of Psychology > John Brown University > Siloam Springs, AR 72761 > (479) 524-7295 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: http://www.jbu.edu/academics/sbs/faculty/rfroman.asp > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marie Helweg-Larsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:41 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences > Subject: Re: Time for final grades RESULTS > > Hi Rick > Do I win a prize! > Well, for accuracy's sake I should clarify that finals at Dickinson > College ran from Monday Dec 12th at 9 AM to Sunday December 18th at 2 > PM. There are finals on both Saturday Dec 17th and Sunday Dec 18th but > not many (there are for classes scheduled at unusual/odd times). In the > fall my final was at 2 PM on Tuesday Dec 13th. > I think another interesting question is when the students actually get > their grades. At Dickinson College students get access to each grade as > soon as the professor submits them online (which might be before finals > if no final exam is given). Anecdotally it seems that most professors > here submit them before Christmas. I talked to the registrar at the > college the other day and she said that lots of school still enter the > grades manually (or with scantron forms), then have to double check them > for accuracy and then mail them out to students. Thus, at some colleges > in which grades are due in mid December students receive them by mail in > early to mid January. So time from "last final" to "time grades are due" > might be unrelated to the time from "grades are due" to "students > receive grades". > Marie > > > Rick Froman wrote: > >> Well, the long-awaited results of my informal survey of the time faculty > are >> given to turn in final grades have finally arrived. As usual with such >> projects, many arbitrary decisions were made to somewhat equitably >> operationalize all the responses received. All responses were translated >> into the common metric of hours including evenings and weekends. How > faculty >> used the time for sleeping, eating and other things was not determined. > Most >> of the times included a weekend but some of the shortest do not. If not >> otherwise specified, I assumed that finals ended at 4:00 pm on the day >> specified. Although it was possible for some faculty to get a head start if >> their finals ended before the last day, I was only interested in the time >> given from the end of the last final to the deadline for grades. >> >> Among our most rushed colleagues were Ken Steele and Joan Warmbold (she did >> take the cake but will have to split it with Ken) with less than two days >> (44 hours) from last final to grade deadline. Those with the most leisurely >> pace were Marie Helweg-Larsen (if it is true that her last final was on a >> Sunday) with 384 hours (she didn't have to turn hers in until TODAY) and > Joe >> Horton with 313 hours (also due today). >> >> The sample size was 20. The mean number of hours was 112. The median was >> 93.13. The distribution was bimodal at 42 and 72. The standard deviation > was >> 85.77 and the range was 340. >> >> Thank you all for your participation in my survey. The complete results are >> posted at: http://acadweb.jbu.edu/psychology/gradingtime.xls. You can see >> your results in alphabetical order or ordered by time. You can also see > your >> percentile rank. Enjoy! >> >> Rick >> >> Dr. Rick Froman >> Professor of Psychology >> John Brown University >> Siloam Springs, AR 72761 >> (479) 524-7295 >> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> web: http://www.jbu.edu/academics/sbs/faculty/rfroman.asp >> >> >> >> >> --- >> You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > -- > ********************************************* > Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. > Associate Professor of Psychology > Dickinson College, P.O. 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