I concur with Robert; but it would be nice to get some data in psych. I don't
know of any studies that compared students who have taken AP psych and received
a 4 or a 5 on the exam and then took intro psych because, basically, these
students are usually exempt from the intro psych course. It would be
interesting to find a university that does not give intro credit for AP psych
and see how those students fare.

Do any of you teach at a such a school where we could take a look?

I have to say that in my intro courses, students who have had standard psych
courses fare no better, and sometimes worse than students have had no HS psych.
In fact, some seem to have learned the most bizarre psychobabble imaginable in
their standard high school course :( A colleague and I have been studying
misconceptions about psychchology among incoming HS freshmen, as well as
pedagogies to address conceptual change for these misconceptions, for nearly a
decade now, and students with a standard HS course seem to fare MUCH worse both
initially and after a semester long course in psych that addresses the
misconceptions explicity. Apparently, once they learn the junk in HS it sticks! And it is SOOOOO hard to unstick. I've even had students tell me that they know
what I want to hear so they tell me, but they don't believe it for
moment--things like the Mozart effect or sugar and hyperactivity, or that
psychotherapists realy can analyze dreams and cure mental illness in that
way... the list goes on and on :(


Annette

Quoting Robert Wildblood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On 20 Feb2006, at 17:13 PM, Christopher D. Green wrote:

Having only taught in Canada, where there are no AP courses in high schools, I often wondered how well this system worked. The answer, apparently, is "none too well."
http://insidehighered.com/news/2006/02/20/ap

The interesting thing about the data presented by the Science-types is that students who get a 5 on the AP exam get an average of 90 (A where I teach), those who get a 4 average 87 (B where I teach) and those who get a 3 average in the C range. Isn't that what the grades on AP exams report should be the case. Also, comparing Honors classes to AP classes is a red herring. In one of the school districts near me, they choose not to offer AP courses because they are convinced that they don't need the structure that the AP courses provide and that they don't need to have the external validation of an outside agency. I have had many students in my classes (upper level psych classes) who had earned credit through AP, and since I have been an AP reader I take note of those that I know had AP courses. No data to offer, but I think these students were as well prepared as those who went through the Intro courses that I have taught in college for the 15 - 16 years AP Psych has been with us.


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Indiana University Kokomo
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