On 2 Mar 2006 at 12:22, David Epstein wrote:

> The study itself is still nowhere to be found at the _Lancet Neurology_
> website, to which my institution has full access.  So all we've got are
> secondhand summaries. 

Not exactly. What we've got is the assertion of the chief 
investigator, reported as a direct quote, that "what we showed is 
that acupuncture is effective".

Now I know that some reporters make stuff up, but I tend to believe 
them until someone issues a denial (then I sometimes still believe 
them, especially if it's a politician who says I never said it).

BTW, it doesn't surprise me that the drugs don't do better than 
placebo either. It's possible that nothing, including placebo, worked 
at all. To evaluate placebo, we need a no-treatment control group for 
comparison, something that many placebo controlled studies don't 
have. Let us know when you get your hands on the study, David.

Say, no thoughts from you on ecstasy treatment for Parkinson's?

Stephen

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