Bob Grossman wrote:
Christopher D. Green wrote:
The study in question was "wholly inadequate" not because it involved
student evaluations but because student evaluations are the wrong
observations to make in order to address the question I was on about.
How about the data collected by NSF and reported by the Higher
Education Data Consortium? They consistently show that, if you
control for size, many liberal arts colleges produce Ph. D's at a rate
comparable to or better than the best research one universities.
There are good liberal arts schools and there are not so good liberal
arts schools. There liberal arts schools where the faculty are
encouraged to do research and include students in the process (Reed in
Oregon comes immediately to mind) and there are ones that do not. I
didn't say that small colleges couldn't do research. All I said was that
faculty who do research have something to offer that those who do not do
research do have have (in as great abundance) to offer. I didn't even
say that this was the be all and end all of teaching. Faculty who spend
their time focusing primarily on teaching have things to offer that
those who do not spend their time that way do not have.
Regards,
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada
416-736-5115 ex. 66164
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.yorku.ca/christo
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