> "It seems that when you argue "Wouldn't it be great if we could...?"
> someone immediately steps in with "Yeah, like that's going to work!"" JG

Nancy:
But I don't think it would be great. I think it would be oppressive.
That's
what the religious right is trying to do...oppress those of us who don't
share
their morality. 

Jim:
At the risk of sounding like a pious twit, religion is oppressive because
religion exhorts you to be a better version of yourself.

And growth is to some extent painful.

But if it's for your own good, or even better for everyone
else's...well...

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