So you're not "more you," but I doubt that anything is
going to emerge from a drunken mind that wasn't in the
sober mind to begin with.

I mean, I've tied on a few in my day, Marc, but I'd
never in a fit of drunkenness say something like, oh,
"Mauchly's Test of Sphericity tests the null
hypothesis that the error covariance matrix of the
orthonormalized transformed dependent variables is
proportional to an identity matrix."

'Cause I've never had that idea to begin with. 

To quote Christopher Hitchens on the fiasco we're
talking about:

"One does not abruptly decide, between the first and
second vodka ... that the Protocols of the Learned
Elders of Zion are valid after all."

--- Marc Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
> Nice comment, Rick.  
>  
> I like to think that I'm not "more me" when I cannot
> speak coherently,
> cannot walk with any fluency, and am prone to
> sporadic outbursts of
> things that apparently I alone find witty.
>  
> Of course, I've ever done any of those things.  I'm
> just sayin'.
>  
> Good weekends, All.
>  
> m
> 
> -------
> "Mauchly's Test of Sphericity:
> Tests the null hypothesis that the error covariance
> matrix of the
> orthonormalized transformed dependent variables is
> proportional
> to an identity matrix."
> ---
> SPSS
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
>       From: Rick Froman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>       Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:41 PM
>       To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
>       Subject: [tips] Re: Mel Gibson
>       
>       
> 
>       Are humans more or less their "true selves" when
> they are
> suppressing the function of their frontal cortex? I
> think it is true to
> say that inebriation will bring you closer to how
> you would act if you
> had been born with the brain structure of an animal.
> I don't believe,
> despite the abundance of quotes otherwise, that it
> reveals your "true
> self" unless you believe that a person's true self
> is found in their
> lower brain functions. And I don't mean any of this
> to defend Mel
> Gibson's statements. They may or may not be
> indicative of his true
> feelings. I just don't believe that getting drunk is
> the royal road to
> an accurate understanding of the true self. And,
> although I am tempted
> to ask for empirical evidence beyond the quotes
> given below, I am not
> sure this is an empirical question. It seems to have
> more to do with
> your assumptions about human nature and the meaning
> of the "true self",
> if there is such a thing (radical behaviorism, for
> one, would question
> the very concept of the self).
> 
>       Rick
> 
>       Dr. Rick Froman
>       Psychology Department
>       Box 3055
>       x7295
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>       
>       Proverbs 14:15 "A simple man believes anything, but
> a prudent
> man gives thought to his steps."
> 
>       
> ________________________________
> 
> 
>       From: Michael Scoles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>       Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 10:07 AM
>       To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
>       Subject: [tips] Re: Mel Gibson
> 
>        
> 
>       I know the truth is in between the 1st and 40th
> drink. --Tori
> Amos
> 
>        
> 
>       Truth comes out in wine. --Pliny the Elder
> 
>        
> 
>       What the sober man has in his heart, the drunken
> man has on his
> lips.
> 
>       --Danish proverb
> 
>        
> 
>       Wine gives a man nothing... it only puts in motion
> what had been
> locked up
> 
>       in frost. --Samuel Johnson
> 
>        
> 
>       The chief reason for drinking is the desire to
> behave in a
> certain way, and
> 
>       to be able to blame it on alcohol. --Mignon
> McLaughlin
> 
>        
> 
>       Champagne, if you are seeking the truth, is better
> than a lie
> detector.  It
> 
>       encourages a man to be expansive, even reckless,
> while lie
> detectors are
> 
>       only a challenge to tell lies successfully. 
> --Graham Greene
> 
>        
> 
>       The inventor of wine is not called the Releaser on
> account of
> the license it
> 
>       gives to the tongue, but because it frees the mind
> from bondage
> to cares.
> 
>       --Seneca
> 
>        
> 
>       There is something awe-inspiring in one who has
> lost all
> inhibitions. --F.
> 
>       Scott Fitzgerald
> 
>        
> 
>       If you want to know a man, get him drunk and he'll
> tip his hand.
> If I like a
> 
>       man when I'm sober, I kin hardly keep from kissing
> him when I'm
> drunk. This
> 
>       goes both ways. If I don't like a man when I'm
> sober, I don't
> want him in
> 
>       the same town when I'm drunk. --Charles Russell
> 
>        
> 
>       Drink, in reality doth not reverse nature, or
> create passions in
> men which
> 
>       did not exist in them before. It takes away the
> guard of reason,
> and
> 
>       consequently forces us to produce those symptoms
> which many,
> when sober,
> 
>       have art to conceal. ----Henry Fielding
> 
>        
> 
>       In a world where there is a law against people ever
> showing
> their emotions,
> 
>       or ever releasing themselves from the greyness of
> their days, a
> drink is not
> 
>       a social tool. It is a thing you need in order to
> live. --Jimmy
> Breslin
> 
>        
> 
>       It is most absurdly said, in popular language, of
> any man, that
> he is
> 
>       disguised in liquor; for, on the contrary, most men
> are
> disguised by
> 
>       sobriety.  --Thomas de Quincy
> 
>        
> 
>        
> 
>        
> 
>        
> 
>       Michael T. Scoles, Ph.D.
>       Associate Professor of Psychology & Counseling
>       University of Central Arkansas
>       Conway, AR 72035
>       
>       >>> "Michael Sylvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 8/6/2005 8:18 AM
> >>>
> 
>       Can behavior that occurs in the altered state of
> being drunk be
> indicative of one's conscious intent?
> 
>        
> 
>       Michael Sylvester,PhD
> 
>       Daytona Beach,Florida
> 
>        
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