I will agree that the name change was brought to a head by the discovery of 
some other objects that were either going to increase the number of planets or 
decrease them. According to Wikipedia, we have known Pluto's size since at 
least 1978 when its moon Charon was discovered. Wikipedia also notes that, up 
until the recent vote, there was no official definition of a planet. So the 
current vote involved no "re-definition" of the concept of a planet. I would 
say they were a few hundred years late on that one and, to be generous, at 
least 28 years late. The definition they recently devised included some fairly 
ambiguous concepts like "clearing your neighborhood" which, as was pointed out 
in Wikipedia, hasn't been completed by Neptune or Pluto wouldn't be there. 
Earth also still has some cleaning up to do. As a teachable moment, I also 
think that it would be good to point out to students that most issues in 
science are not decided by a vote. 
 
So I'm not a postmodern thinker but it seems to me that this controversy was 
all about definitions and the vote could have just as logically gone in one 
direction as another (regardless of any sentiment). Unless you reify the 
concept of a planet as a Platonic ideal, there is no right answer to what a 
planet is (although majority rules). It is operationally defined for the 
purpose of communication in science. I don't believe that anyone who voted 
against the new definition had any doubt about the size of Pluto or the 
discovery of Xena and other similar bodies. In fact, the vote could go 
differently next time the group meets with no change in the empirical evidence. 
Is there some real asymptotic limit on the number of things we call planets in 
the solar system? Will there be a problem if we identify a solar system with 
more than 10 planets by the current defintion (of course, the current 
definition only applies to our solar system)? It reminds me much more of some 
of the more inexact aspects of science such as deciding on a particular 
solution in factor analysis. One is not right and the other wrong but one might 
be more helpful as an explanatory construct. As a teacher of Research Methods, 
I will use this as a good example of the importance (and flexibility) of 
operational definitions in science but not as an example of how accumulating 
empirical evidence causes an increase in knowledge or a change in support for 
particular theories. For that, I will refer to how accumulating evidence caused 
the writers of the DSM to re-define Multiple Personalities as Dissocative 
Identity Disorder.
 
Rick
 
 
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Sent: Sat 8/26/2006 10:11 PM
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Subject: [tips] RE: Pluto's chromosomes



On 26 Aug 2006 at 9:20, Rick Froman wrote:

>>
> 1) If the known size of Pluto fluctuated over the years and that is
> actually what caused it to be removed from classification as a planet,
> it is a pretty big coincidence that they realized how small it
> actually
> was on the same day that the definition of a planet was revised to
> remove Pluto from consideration.

No coincidence. The meeting was called because the weight of new
discoveries, in particular the recent discovery of Xena, made it
impossible to ignore the problem of Pluto. They didn't realize how small
it was on the same day. The shrinking Pluto problem (not fluctuating
Pluto) dates back many years. But I believe it was the discovery of Xena
that made some sort of immediate decision imperative. Its discovery meant
that the old imprecise understanding of what a planet was had to be
revised. If all animals had four legs, and all humans had two, then
defining the difference is easy. But what do you do when you then
discover a stork? You have to refine your definition.

The decision to boot Pluto was most definitely data-driven. Over the
years they acquired much new data about the kinds of rocks out there.
That data made Pluto's status unclear. They could re-define a planet to
include Pluto, but then be required to also admit to the club many other
Pluto-like objects since discovered, or they could boot Pluto. They chose
the latter, and sentiment be damned.

That admirable source Wikipedia tends to support my version. Check it
out. So all your base is still belong to me.

Stephen

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