Hi

Others might have already said or implied the following comments.

1.  Since the sample mean, M, minimizes sum(x-M)^2, sum(x-M)^2 will always be 
less than sum(x-MU)^2, the value we are trying to estimate, unless M = MU, a 
relatively uncommon occurrence.  Therefore, calculation of s and s^2 uses a 
value smaller than n in the denominator.  Why n-1 is a more challenging issue, 
and one addressed by others.

2.  If underlying math is too challenging (as it is for me and many of my 
students), you could do a simulation to demonstrate to students that n-1 indeed 
generates the appropriate value.  Here is spss simulation that computes 
variance using n-1 (var below), n (varn), and n-2 (var2).  The average of 
100,000 sample values shows the expected pattern.
  
input program.
loop s = 1 to 100000.
do repeat v = v1 to v16.
comp v = rv.norm(100,10).
end repeat.
comp std = sd(v1 to v16).
comp var = std**2.
comp varn = var*((16-1)/16).
comp var2 = var*((16-1)/(16-2)).
end case.
end loop.
end file.
end input program.
descr var varn var2.
  
                 N      Minimum   Maximum    Mean         Std. Deviation 
 var             100000 12.590735 354.600975 99.81321480  36.445022557   
 varn            100000 11.803814 332.438414 93.57488888  34.167208648   
 var2            100000 13.490073 379.929616 106.94273015 39.048238454   

Take care
Jim

James M. Clark
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I hope that subject line isn't copyrighted.

 

After I explained why the formula for the s to predict s uses N-1 in the
denominator (to inflate it for a more conservative estimate since it is
just an estimate of the population standard deviation), a student asked,
why N-1 and not N-2 or N-3? I mentioned statistical studies about how
N-1 gives the best estimate of the population standard deviation but I
wonder if anyone has a good explanation for why it is N-1. I know if the
number got too high, small sample sizes would end up with a negative
number (which would make no sense).

 

Rick 

 

 

Dr. Rick Froman, Chair
Division of Humanities and Social Sciences
Professor of Psychology
John Brown University
2000 W. University
Siloam Springs, AR  72761
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