But please note that if there is one area of study that NCLB has flagrantly sacrificied for reading and writing, it is geography--along with most of the sciences and social sciences. In particular scientific thinking is completely neglected.

I go back to my original stance. Is this what we really want? Clearly a half dozen years of NCLB has not improved our incoming freshmen's knowledge of writing or math.

I agree that there is a problem, NCLB and anything even vaguely akin to is in higher education is NOT the answer, IMHO. It creates a climate for politicizing curricula (and I mean internal politics as well as global), for creating an environment conducing to "creative" assessments that do nothing more than pay lip service and churn out appropriate numbers via 'damned lies' and leads to unethical behavior on the parts of desperate individuals who are doing their best but cannot meet the artificial standards. (I ran out of posts to defend my position yesterday)

Annette

Quoting "Christopher D. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Allen Esterson wrote:

England and Italy were the only really sure bets. France and Spain were at around 50%. Everything else was much lower...
Chris, Some clarification please. When you say that "England" was
identified on the map of Europe, do you actually mean that Britain (i.e., England, Wales and Scotland) was 'identified' as "England"? -:)

A thousand pardons. I accepted "England" in place of what should have
been "UK" (and, as I recall, most wrote "England" instead of "UK").

Did most of the students exclude Ireland from "England"?

Although the border of northern Ireland was included (and should have tipped them off), few seemed to take any notice of this and few labelled the island of ¨ire at all, north or south. From this, I could not reliably tell whether they knew that the Republic of Ireland is a separate country but didn't know its name, or whether they believed Ireland to be part of (what they typically called) "England." It was several years ago and I don't have exact numbers

Best,
Chris
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Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada

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