Articulation agreements, as noted by Ken below, may not be automatic (at least not around here in Minnesota). As department chair, I receive a copy of the course description from each college for each psy course which is similar to what we offer. I then approve or disapprove it for being included in the articulation agreement.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: From: Ken Steele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:33:04 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1 Christopher D. Green wrote: > The eudcational system that is being proposed for the US here -- two > years of community college between 10th grade and university -- is > effectively the system that has existed in Quebec for decades now. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/15/education/15school.html?_r=1&ref=education&oref=slogin > <http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/15/education/15school.html?_r=1&ref=education&oref=slogin> > or > *http://tinyurl.com/uecrh > > *As a product of that system myself, I strongly recommend that they look > closely at the Quebec experience before going there. In theory, the idea > of having students gradually ease into the freedoms and electives of > university is a good one. > > Of course, many will tell me that the US already has a fine community > college system, and it is just amatter of expanding it to include, well, > everyone. That may be true, but imagine attempting to expand it by, say, > 5-fold in one fell swoop. Where would all those new teachers come from? > From the pool of people currently NOT being hired by community colleges. > The state of North Carolina has a system in place now that is producing problems that may be similar to those alluded to by Chris. All public universities and community colleges are interconnected through a set of "articulation" agreements. The official fiction is that the first course in (e.g.) introductory statistics covers the same material whether one is attending UNC-Chapel Hill, ASU, or Blowfly Community College. Credit for taking the introductory stat course at Blowfly CC would transfer automatically to UNC-CHapel Hill because, officially, both courses cover the same material. The idea was that a student could ease into university life by attending the local community college and still get an educational experience equivalent to, and prepatory for, attending one of the public universities. The reality is that the level of work for a course with the same name differs at UNC-CH, ASU, and a CC. The problem is that we get transfers who have attended a CC for 2 years and are completely unprepared for the level of work at ASU. They spend a long, frustrating year at ASU either pulling their academic work up to a passing level or discovering that they can't do so. Ken --------------------------------------------------------------- Kenneth M. Steele, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Psychology http://www.psych.appstate.edu Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608 USA --------------------------------------------------------------- Gerald Henkel-Johnson, Psy.D., L.P. Associate Professor Chair - Depts. of Psychology and Sociology The College of St. Scholastica T3648 (218)723-6023 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tips&text_mode=0&lang=english
