Robert Wildblood wrote:

I have been traveling to the UK (England, Scotland, and Wales) every few years since 1976 and made my first trip to Ireland in 2004. I found that over the years the attitude about ice in drinks has changed quite a bit. On my first trip there was no ice and if you asked for any (and they had it) you would most frequently be given one or two cubes. Over the years, ice has become more common and, often you don't even have to ask. One one of my early trips I enquired about the temperature of beer (Guinness in particular, but I also enjoy some of the local ales) and was told that it was served at "room" temperature but that the "room" was the basement area where all of the kegs were stored, and that came out to be about 58 centigrade.

I'm guessing you meant "Fahrenheit" here. 58 c. would be hotter than even the hottest Arabian summer day.... 58*9/5+32 = 139.4 F.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Benjamin Franklin, 1775

Yeah, well, he also said that one of the primary aims of the American revolution (one that doesn't get much coverage in the Official National Mythology) was to drive the French Catholics and "Indians" (as they were then called) out of the Ohio River Valley (which had been ceded to them in the Quebec Act of 1774) so that they could be replaced by good white protestant men like himself. Nice. (Incidentally, the Quebec Act was one of the notrious "Intolerable Acts" mentioned in the Declaration of Independence... though one hears almost exclusively of "intolerable" tea taxes these days).

Best,
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Christopher "Once Upon an American" Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada

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