> Sandy's Wikipedia reference above wasn't too forthcoming, but it led me
> to another, and then I hit the jackpot. Ron Rosenbaum has an article
> published in _Slate_ dated September 23, 2004 ("Dead Like Her: How
> Elisabeth K=FCbler-Ross went around the bend"). It's an informative,
> entertaining, and occasionally hilarious account of just how wacky this
> woman was. You can get it at http://slate.msn.com/id/2107069/
So basically it's not okay for me to develop my clinical impressions
outside of the lab, but you're willing to trod on some dead theorist's
memory on the basis of hearsay?
Wow. Of course we know it's all true because you read it in that article.
Hmmm...what does that sound like?
Of course, note that even the author is willing to give the lady more
credit than you did:
"...there is no doubt K¨bler-Ross made an important contribution to the
treatment of dying patients (hospice care, etc.) in an age of increasingly
mechanized medicine (and medical doctors..."
Like someone else said, let's put her to rest.
Jim G
>
> There are too many fine paragraphs to know which ones to choose for
> quoting. But try these, which are relevant to my posts:
>
> "She began identifying herself as a "scientist" [note the scare quotes--
> SB] and took her accumulated anecdotal experience and declared that the
> dying process (and the grieving process, too) had those famous five
> stages. Staging death had a remarkable appeal and gave an illusion of
> control over the uncontrollable. She became a saintly icon, the Queen of
> Death".
>
> "But then, quietly, in the late '70s, the Queen began to go around the
> bend, began declaring there was no death...Death for Kubler-Ross became
> just a kind of bonus "Sixth Stage", a kind of heavenly spa where one
> could freshen up before cruising around among the living again".
>
> "Whether or not Kubler-Ross is dead her alleged "science" of Death 'n'
> Dying lives on in all its meretriciousness, rarely challenged any more".
>
> "Until I looked into it I admit that I was one of the ones content to
> accept on faith that Kubler-Ross' Five Stages of "Death 'n' Dying" was
> founded on something more solid than Kubler-Ross' anecdotes" [not
> afterwards, apparently--SB].
>
>
> Of course, if one accepts the Five Stages merely on Kubler-Ross' say-so,
> then one must also accept her sixth stage founded in the same way with
> the same kind of support (that is, none). That's the stage that
> Rosenbaum refers to as the idea of a "heavenly spa where one could
> freshen up" and also as a "heavenly car mechanic vision". I would think
> that to be consistent Jim would tell us that we would have to accept it
> until it's challenged by appropriate evidence.
>
> Good luck with that.
>
> Stephen
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