My thanks to James Stevenson (2007) for prompting me to clarify my post "The U.S. Education Crisis: Manufactured or Real?" [Hake (2007a)]. In his Chemed-L post of 24 Mar 2007 14:49:49-0500 he wrote [bracketed by lines "SSSSSS. . . ."]:

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I commend you for sifting through the 40000+ but what is your point? Presentation of diverse viewpoints is not sufficient for me to want to sift through that which came through your sifter.

Basic questions:
1.  Where do you stand on the question: Manufactured or Real?
2. (To help me to know how to stand on the issue) Should there be a concern if the majority of the people in my chemistry class (who allegedly have had math and chemistry in high school) have to pull out a calculator to divide 428 by 10? SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

IN ANSWER TO QUESTION #1: "WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THE QUESTION: MANUFACTURED OR REAL?":

In Hake (2007a), I wrote [see that post for references other than Hake (2000)]:

"Having sifted through [41,600 hits Google hits] ;-) and added a few more, I should like to recommend [in addition to Berliner & Biddle (1996) and Steadman (1996)] the following collection of diverse viewpoints: Ansary (2007), Bracy (2003), Bransford et al. (2000), Brown & Brown (2007), COSEPUP (2005), Donovan & Bransford (2005), EdWeek (2007), **Hake (2000)**, Holton (1986), NCOE (1983), Peterson (2003), Schmidt et al. (2001), Valverde et al. (2002), and Wittmann (2007)."

If you'll scan Hake (2000) referenced in the passage above, you'll find that I think the education crises is REAL.

IN ANSWER TO QUESTION #2: "SHOULD THERE BE A CONCERN IF THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN MY CHEMISTRY CLASS (WHO ALLEGEDLY HAVE HAD MATH AND CHEMISTRY IN HIGH SCHOOL) HAVE TO PULL OUT A CALCULATOR TO DIVIDE 428 BY 10?"

Most definitely YES! But who's responsible for ineffective math/science education in K-12? As indicated in "Should We Measure Change? Yes!" [Hake (2007b):

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. . . could it be that the U.S. education system is so singularly resistant to change because, in part, higher education has failed to properly educate prospective K-12 teachers and administrators? The NSF's (1996) report "Shaping the Future" hit the nail on the head [my insert at ". . . [insert]. . ."]:

"Many faculty in SME&T. . . .[Science, Mathematics, Engineering, & Technology]. . . at the postsecondary level continue to blame the schools for sending underprepared students to them. But, increasingly. . .[but not conspicuously]. . . the higher education community has come to recognize the fact that **teachers and principals in the K-12 system are all people who have been educated at the undergraduate level, mostly in situations in which SME&T programs have not taken seriously enough their vital part of the responsibility for the quality of America's teachers.** HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
24245 Hatteras Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~sdi>

REFERENCES
Hake, R.R. 2000. "Is it Finally Time to Implement Curriculum S?" AAPT Announcer 30(4), 103; online <http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake/CurrS-031501.pdf> (1.2 MB) - 400 references & footnotes, 390 hot-linked URL's. This paper concerns improving the education of undergraduate physics majors by instituting a "Curriculum S" for "Synthesis." But because that's a small part of a much larger educational problem in the U.S. there's a lot of material on the reform of P-16 education generally (P = preschool).

Hake, R.R. 2007a. "The U.S. Education Crisis: Manufactured or Real?" online at
<http://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0703&L=pod&F=&S=&P=16796>. Post of 22March to AERA-A,B,C,J,K,L; AP-Physics, ARN-L; ASSESS; Chemed-L; EdResMeth; EvalTalk, Phys-L; Physhare; PhysLrnR; PsychTeacher (rejected :-(); TeachingEdPsych; & TIPS.

Hake, R.R. 2007b. "Should We Measure Change? Yes!" online as ref. 43 at <http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>. To appear as a chapter in "Evaluation of Teaching and Student Learning in Higher Education," a Monograph of the American Evaluation Association <http://www.eval.org/>.

NSF. 1996. National Science Foundation. "Shaping the Future, Volume II: Perspectives on Undergraduate Education in Science, Mathematics, Engineering, and Technology," Advisory Committee to the National Science Foundation Directorate for Education and Human Resources, chaired by Melvin George, online at <http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/1998/nsf98128/nsf98128.pdf> (1.8 MB). This report is one of the few that emphasizes the crucial role of higher education in determining the quality of K-12 education.

Stevenson, J. 2007. "Re: The U.S. Education Crisis: Manufactured or Real?" Chemed-L post of 24 Mar 2007 14:49:49-0500; online at <http://tinyurl.com/2dkudm>.






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