That's why it bothers me even more when our Dean seems unconcerned 
about such matters. Did I say "argh" already today? ;-)
Thanks all... you are helpful and interesting colleagues!
-S


On Oct 15, 2007, at 1:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> To the best of my knowledge, it doesn't matter if the particular study 
> does not receive federal funding if it violates federal protections. 
> What matters is whether or not there is any federal money coming into 
> your university. THAT can be frozen if an investigation into irb 
> irregularities occurs.
>
> Does anyone else know different? Unfortunately all of the famous cases 
> that I can think of were those in which a federally funded study was 
> involved.
>
> Annette
>
>
> Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D.
> Professor of Psychology
> University of San Diego
> 5998 Alcala Park
> San Diego, CA 92110
> 619-260-4006
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> ---- Original message ----
>> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:24:54 -0400
>> From: Steven Specht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [tips] more on our IRB problems
>> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" 
>> <[email protected]>
>>
>> Thank you all for responding so thoughtfully. I encourage others to
>> reply as well. I would like to use this info (minus any identifying
>> information) to our Dean (who is a Language History scholar with no
>> background in science apparently. She didn't even know what a "poster
>> session" was). Anyway, PLEASE let me know if you do not want your
>> response used (but I really need some "outside ammo" here). I am even
>> more perturbed about this latest problem than usual because of an
>> incident that happened last year. The same IRB committee approved some
>> survey research from a Ph.D. student at Phoenix University (yes, the
>> online diploma mill... oops, did I say that?). The survey was
>> distributed on campus and was about faculty-administrative relations 
>> as
>> well as workplace stress (INCLUDING minor physical problems and drug
>> and alcohol use). I completed the survey because I like to help out
>> anyone doing research. I also included additional information about my
>> displeasure with our administration in the space available. I later
>> found out that the survey was being conducted by one of our own
>> administrators (a Vice President getting his degree from Phoenix)!!! 
>> He
>> failed to identify himself as an administrator at our institution!
>> Clearly this was a case in which the researcher did not disclose some
>> absolutely essential information. I raised the issue and received a
>> "smackdown" myself. I went so far as to call the folks in the
>> Washington Human Subjects Protection Office (they said they couldn't 
>> do
>> anything since the research was not federally funded). Our IRB is
>> obviously out of control at many levels and I am hoping to soon 
>> request
>> a wholesale resignation of the committee. Like I don't have better
>> things to do. Argh!
>> Thanks again.
>> -S
>>
>>
>> ========================================================
>> Steven M. Specht, Ph.D.
>> Associate Professor of Psychology
>> Utica College
>> Utica, NY 13502
>> (315) 792-3171
>>
>> "Mice may be called large or small, and so may elephants, and it is
>> quite understandable when someone says it was a large mouse that ran 
>> up
>> the trunk of a small elephant" (S. S. Stevens, 1958)
>>
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Steven M. Specht, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Psychology
Utica College
Utica, NY 13502
(315) 792-3171

"Mice may be called large or small, and so may elephants, and it is 
quite understandable when someone says it was a large mouse that ran up 
the trunk of a small elephant" (S. S. Stevens, 1958)

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