Marc
You might want to assign them Stanovich's (How to think straight about
psychology) Chapter 7: But it's not real life: The "artificiality"
criticism and psychology. That chapter explain in a clear and straight
forward way why psychologists care less about external validity than
most lay people believe we should. 
Marie


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Department Chair and Associate Professor of Psychology
Kaufman 168, Dickinson College
Carlisle, PA 17013
Office: (717) 245-1562, Fax: (717) 245-1971
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From: Turner, G. Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:02 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Swimming with da dolphins

Stephen,
Thank you for this very timely reference. For some reason this semester,
a large number of students in my methods courses seem to be over
emphasizing issues of generalizability and while almost (if not
completely) ignoring threats to internal and construct validity. 
In-class demonstration projects that have always worked well in the past
don't seem to be working with the students this semester. (I just
finished grading one of these assignments, so this is fresh in my mind
right now.)

Every semester I do a "study" on ESP with my students that consists of
two conditions, with 20 trials in each. It's the standard "think about
what the next image will be" then see if they get it correct or not.
They score themselves after each trial, with a brief break in between
conditions. I pick something different from semester to semester as the
"ESP enhancing object" to be used for the 2nd condition, where all of
the images are presented in exactly the same order as the first
condition. Needless to say, I always get a significant effect with
scores in the second condition being higher. 
In past semesters almost all students pick up on the issue of carry over
and sequence effects threatening the validity of the study. This
semester the vast majority of students are focusing on the sample (ie
students in the class) not being representative of the larger population
as the most important threat/limitation, and very few are even
mentioning testing as a threat in the design even though in my mind it's
staring them in the face.

I was beating my head against the wall while grading the papers tonight
and realizing I needed to go back over the threats to experimental
validity (again) and why threats to internal validity were important. So
this article came at just the right time for me to discuss it with them
in class tomorrow... well, really not tomorrow since class is in about 8
hours now...

- Marc

At 12:14 AM 11/2/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>This just out: Swimming with dolphins (aka "Dolphin-assisted
>Therapy")  does not cure autism, mental retardation, depression, 
>"infantile neurosis",  dermatitis, or bad breath (ok, I made that last 
>one up).
>
>Our old friend Scott Lilienfeld, along with Lori Marino, just published

>a review saying so (http://tinyurl.com/yvtc2u ).
>
>No word on the effectiveness of swimming with da fishes.
>
>Stephen
>
>Marino, L, & Lilienfeld, S. (2007). Dolphin-assisted therapy: More 
>flawed data and more flawed conclusions. Anthrozoos, 20, 239-249.
>
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>Stephen L. Black, Ph.D.
>Professor of Psychology, Emeritus
>Bishop's University                e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>2600 College St.
>Sherbrooke QC  J1M 1Z7
>Canada



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Senior Lecturer & Technology Coordinator Department of Psychology Texas
State University-San Marcos San Marcos, TX  78666
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