The security issues have created great problems for us! We have pretty much has our hands tied in collecting data online.
One member of our IRB--the attorney (fitting, I guess) so far has nixed all online data collection unless the MOST ridiculous safeguards are in place, such as students have to come to a computer lab on campus at a set time, where all of the computers have been certified by our IT folks as secure, etc. etc. Basically a study that was proposed a couple of years ago ended up withdrawn and no one has tried it lately. I guess word spread and no one wants to go back to the drawing board. The problem is that if someone really wanted to go to the trouble they *could* track down the IP address of a particular person's data. I think we need to learn how to make a case for security, but none of us in the psychology department seem to have enough knowledge to prepare a proposal that would pass this guy's muster. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:46:59 -0600 >From: "Shearon, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [tips] Google desktop search (was why psychology is hard) >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]> > > >Rick- The problem arose, in the situation I'm aware of, when someone installed Google desktop on a public computer. Often, students can't do that (install software) unless specific adjustments are made to permissions but someone with higher permissions installed it. Then someone familiar with the "capabilities" showed someone how to compromise passwords (which was a violation of the university in question's IT rules). So Rick is correct that it isn't an issue which is likely but it is possible (and as was pointed out, I think by Michael, it is made slightly more likely by the less than effective search on Vista (our campus is up to about 1/2 Vista machines- the entire psychology department is using Vista. We haven't had many problems except that people don't like it. >Tim >_______________________________ >Timothy O. Shearon, PhD >Professor and Chair Department of Psychology >The College of Idaho >Caldwell, ID 83605 >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; general; history and systems > >"You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." Dorothy Parker > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rick Froman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thu 8/28/2008 9:13 PM >To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) >Subject: RE: [tips] Google desktop search (was why psychology is hard) > >I don't think it would be too common to use Google desktop on a public computer. Most public computers wouldn't have Desktop search installed and since it is designed to search what is on the computer on which it is installed, it is unlikely that the personal files you are looking for will be found on a public computer. What might be a problem, if I am understanding this correctly, is that someone else could use Google Desktop on a public computer to find my e- mail messages even after I have logged off. That seems like a warning against accessing your e-mail from a public computer if you are concerned with someone finding and reading your messages with Google Desktop after you have logged off. It might be worth your while to determine if Google Desktop is installed on the public computer you are using as your e-mails could be stored in the Google Desktop index and not be deleted when you log off. However, if Google Desktop is not installed on the public computer, it shouldn't be a problem. I am grateful to know this (I do sometimes read my e-mail on public computers) but that isn't going to stop me from enjoying Google Desktop's convenience on my own private computer. > >Rick > >Dr. Rick Froman, Chair >Division of Humanities and Social Sciences >Professor of Psychology >Box 3055 >John Brown University >2000 W. University Siloam Springs, AR 72761 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >(479)524-7295 >http://tinyurl.com/DrFroman > >"Pete, it's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart." >- Ulysses Everett McGill > >From: Michael Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:26 PM >To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) >Subject: RE: [tips] Google desktop search (was why psychology is hard) > >Thanks Tim. > >The security issues don't sound encouraging, I will have to check with IT if >they recommend against it. But with Vista's search broken (no wonder more and more people are starting to hate windows--sorry, anecdotal) one is up the proverbial creek if you need to find where you placed that...that...file! > >--Mike > >--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Shearon, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: Shearon, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [tips] Google desktop search (was why psychology is hard) >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]> >Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 1:06 PM > >Miahael- > >Vista- You mean Mahogany? :) Remember that folks > > like it if they rename it!! > >Thanks for confirming my own experience with its search "function". > >But, re: Google desk search, all's not good news. Google desktop search on a > >public computer can be used to search email if it is accessed through the web > >and you can by-pass the passwords and log-ons (you do have to look beyond the > >search results but it's accessible if you dig a bit)! Do be careful to only > >use it on your own private computer is the advice I've been seeing- Also, > >that should include post-log off and be especially powerful to anyone with a > >higher "level of security" in their account. To me that's not a > >good thing. (That's not it's only non-redeeming security issue/feature: > >C.f., http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/vpn/2004/1115vpn1.html - you may > >have to bypass an ad!) > >Tim > >_______________________________ > >Timothy O. Shearon, PhD > >Professor and Chair Department of Psychology > >The College of > > Idaho > >Caldwell, ID 83605 > >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; general; history and > >systems > > > >"You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." Dorothy Parker > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Michael Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Wed 8/27/2008 11:07 AM > >To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > >Subject: Re: [tips] Google desktop search (was why psychology is hard) > > > >Does the Google desktop search work for Vista? > > > >I know that the Vista search is totally useless, and actually doesn't work. > > > >--Mike > > > >--- On Wed, 8/27/08, David Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From: David Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [tips] Google desktop search (was why psychology is hard) > >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" > ><[email protected]> > >Date: Wednesday, August > > 27, 2008, 9:51 AM > > > >On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, beth benoit went: > > > >> Annette and others, > >> Do all of you know about "Google Desktop Search"? It's an > >amazing > >> little search program you leave on your desktop that opens a little > >> box where you type in any word you recall from a document or even > >> email you're searching for, and it finds it on any item on your > >> computer that uses that word or phrase. > > > >Seconded. For Windows, Google Desktop is invaluable. > > > >If you're on a Mac, you've already got the extremely fast and powerful > >Spotlight search, but there's a disadvantage: Spotlight does NOT show > >your search results with contextual snippets of surrounding text, the > >way Google does. The cure for that is SpotInside--it's an app that > >harnesses Spotlight's searching ability, but presents the results in a > >more Google-like > > fashion: > ><http://www.oneriver.jp/SpotInside/index_e.html> > > > >There's also Google Desktop for Mac, but I've found that it slows down > >the system, presumably because you've got Google and Spotlight each > >simultaneously maintaining an index of your stuff. > > > >And finally, also for Mac, there's SpeedSearch > ><http://www.smartcache.net/speedsearch/index.html>, which finds > >phrases more reliably than Spotlight does, and doesn't rely on an index. > > > >--David Epstein > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >--- > >To make changes to your subscription contact: > > > >Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > > > > > > >--- > >To make changes to your subscription contact: > > > >Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > > >--- > >To make changes to your subscription contact: > > > >Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > >--- > >To make changes to your subscription contact: > > > >Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >--- >To make changes to your subscription contact: > >Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > >--- >To make changes to your subscription contact: > >Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >________________ >TNEF28336.rtf (9k bytes) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
