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I don't have documentation, but would guess that with the advance of the 
humanistic psych movement and its disavowal of traditional conceptions of 
science (see also Maslow's file clerk versus artist conception of doing 
science), Rogers also turned away from traditional conceptions of empiricistic, 
analytic-reductive approaches (as he and other humanistic psych folk saw them). 
   If I were not busy with trick-or-treaters, I am sure that I could find this 
increasing emphasis in his writings that should parallel the popularity of 
humanistic psych to present day transpersonal psych and postmodernism.  It is 
ironic that he was recognized for opening up the therapeutic hour to empirical 
scrutiny, but  he did not feel that traditionalist, empirical psychology was up 
to the task of accounting for personal experience.  His research on therapy was 
earlier in his thinking.   His debates with Skinner on issues of choice come to 
mind.  Also, from somewhere..."A personal, subjective choice made my man sets 
in motion the operations of science which in time proclaims that there can be 
no such thing as a personal subjective choice"  seems to capture his view, and 
I think these words are his, but I am sticking with halloween candy rather than 
searching my book-case at this hour ;-)   I don't have the references handy but 
am going with memory and the few times I saw him in person at conferences.  
    Personally, I thought he was at his best when describing ways people 
self-distort and mis-interpret their experiences;a multi-faceted phenomenon 
emphasized later by social-cognitive psychologists.   
     PS:  MS's note about a client jumping out a window is typically discussed 
with reference to T. Szasz's emphasis on non-interference, not Rogers' views, 
but these are all just undocumented memories.    Gary





Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D.
Professor, Psychology
Saginaw Valley State University
University Center, MI 48710
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>>> "Jim Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/31/2008 8:47 am >>>
Hi

Early on Carl Rogers, Truax, and other collaborators did a fair amount of 
empirical research on effectiveness of treatment as a function of qualities of 
therapist and sessions.  Is there any documentation as to why he subsequently 
turned away from this empirical approach?  Was it because the findings tended 
not to confirm the importance of some of Rogers' theoretical constructs (e.g., 
unconditional positive regard)?

Take care
Jim

James M. Clark
Professor of Psychology
204-786-9757
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Department of Psychology
University of Winnipeg
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