On 1 Dec 2008 at 10:55, Helweg-Larsen, Marie wrote:

> From the NY Times description about the Walmart trampling it doesn´t
 > seem to fit well the traditional bystander intervention research. 
<snip>

> But the Walmart case appears to be one of lack of crowd control. There
> were thousands of people pushing in from behind. If you have every been
> in a large (out of control) crowd you know that there is simply no
> choice but to move forward as you are pushed from behind <snip> 

Yes. From my own, fortunately limited personal experience being in a 
crush, you'd be unable to help even if you wanted to. It's like trying to 
save someone from drowning while you're drowning yourself. 

And on Paul Bernhardt's query to the First Dude ("How can you be sure 
that you are the only divergent thinking on Tips, by the way?"), I'd have 
to say all proud TIPsters are divergent thinkers, but I'm happy to assert 
that the Sylvesterian out-diverges us all. As Stephen Leacock,  the 
Canadian humourist and McGill professor of economics (nothing funny 
there, these days) said about Lord Ronald, "[He} said nothing; he flung 
himself from the room, flung himself upon his horse and rode madly off in 
all directions."

I think he really had the First Dude in mind when he wrote that.

Stephen

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