Do you have an excess of people wanting to teach Intro Psych? I think you would 
certainly have fewer interested if they were going to have to pay to take the 
GRE Psych test (unless they had already taken it for grad school admittance).

You could certainly do this although the main purpose of the subject GRE is to 
predict performance in grad school (an aptitude test) instead of measuring how 
much you know about Intro (an achievement test). In fact, the MFT was developed 
to answer the need for outcomes assessment since some programs (I worked for 
one) were starting to use the GRE subject test for outcomes assessment. This 
was problematic for ETS because the GRE was being given to many people who were 
not interested in going to grad school (the main population of interest). Also, 
as a grad school entrance test, the Psych GRE is pitched to a much higher 
difficulty (discriminating very good from excellent) than the Psych MFT which 
is designed to measure the entire spectrum of performance from poor to 
excellent.

So I wouldn't require it because it isn't designed for that purpose and a 
person's academic achievements should be better measures of their academic 
achievement than a test designed to inform grad school admissions decisions.

Rick

Dr. Rick Froman, Chair
Division of Humanities and Social Sciences
Professor of Psychology
Box 3055
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-----Original Message-----
From: Donnelly, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:11 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: [tips] Requirements for Intro Psych instructors

Hey there TIPsters:

I have a question for you all that occurred to me today. First, a bit of
context.

In our program we will be requiring exiting seniors to take the Major
Field Test in psychology (put out by ETS). This is the first time for
us, so we're not sure what to expect. But, let's assume that  (when we
examine the scores of our students) our faculty wonder why the students
don't score higher.

I have to think that one of the best predictors for how well they do on
an exam like this (or perhaps the GRE Psych subject test) would be how
well *we* instructors do on the same test. Having thunk that thought, it
dawned on me that perhaps some programs out there have, in fact, at some
point, tried requiring (say) all the people who want to teach Intro
Psych to take the GRE subject test and score at or above some threshold.

So, these are my questions to you:

1. Have you or anyone you know ever used the GRE subject test (or
similar) as a basic competency screen for your instructors?

2. Have any of you ever considered but then rejected it? Why?

3. If the answer to both 1 and 2 are NO, why not?

DISCLAIMER: My posing this question should not be taken as an indication
that I or anyone I know is about to propose such a thing in our program.
In fact, I have to say that such a proposal would probably be rightly
regarded as Kryptonite by most faculty.  Really, though, once the
thought occurred to me as I was musing about the exit exam, I just had
to ask some group of people who might be able to give me an answer.
Hence, this email.

Thanks in advance,

Mike Donnelly, PhD
UW-Stout
Menomonie, WI

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