Secondary anticipatory goal response, a Hullian learning concept I think, might be germane to the topic at hand. The closer you get to the urinal or bathroom for that matter the greater the urge. Here perceived distance would be the signaling stimulus.
Michael J. Lavin Professor Emeritus St. Bonaventure University [email protected] http://web.sbu.edu/psychology/lavin 914-366-8006 Tarrytown, NY 716-375-2488 SBU Office -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thu 07-May-09 11:39 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Classical conditioning of urination There is probably some association of urinating with running water, because after childbirth, when there is sometimes trouble urinating, the recommendation is to turn on the water in the sink when trying to urinate, or to run water over the area. In a message dated 5/7/2009 3:29:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: It might be a chain of associations. For example, proximity to a toilet often leads to an increased urge to urinate, probably because contact (so to speak) with toilets is reliably associated with urination -- or at least relaxation of the urinary sphincter. The closer you get to the restroom, the more the conditioned response (relaxation of the sphincter) tends to appear, and the greater effort one has to expend to counteract it (the more urgent the feeling that you're about to wet yourself becomes). Chain the toilet <-> urination association with flushing (sound of water running) <-> toilet -> urination (relaxation of the sphincter) -> greater sense of urgency. I think some is Pavlovian and some Skinnerian, but I've already procrastinated enough. Can you tell it's the end of the semester? m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology College of Arts & Sciences Baker University -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Froman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:18 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: [tips] Classical conditioning of urination > > Has anyone else had the experience of feeling an intense > desire to urinate when filling a glass of water or otherwise > hearing water run like in a creek (I think this is an > auditory experience -- I don't think that just seeing water > causes this response). > > Although one would be tempted to refer to this as a > classically conditioned response, I am not sure how that > would work. At best, the sound of urination is simultaneous > with the act of urinating and it does not predict the US in any way. > > If the US is a full bladder and the UR is urination, how does > the sound of running water become the CS reliably predicting the US? > > Rick > > Dr. Rick Froman, Chair > Division of Humanities and Social Sciences Professor of > Psychology Box 3055 John Brown University 2000 W. University > Siloam Springs, AR 72761 [email protected] > (479)524-7295 > http://tinyurl.com/DrFroman > > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly ([email protected]) > --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([email protected]) **************Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([email protected]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([email protected])
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