Who is the person who utters such vituperous diatribe in regard to the 
knowledge of science.  I don't do research any more except on excellence of 
teaching, but I'm glad I learned it and did it in my early career.  An 
individual who is working in a scientific field, which most of the 
psychologists who I know think we are, who has never done research and/or 
didn't pay much attention to it in his or her classes or avoided such classes, 
is not a psychologists worth his or her title.  Perhaps, though, Mr. Smith (if 
that is his real name) is suggesting that medicine is not a science and, with 
that, I would agree.  If I hadn't the background in science and research that I 
have, I wouldn't be able to talk meaningfully to my students about the research 
I present in class.  

And, as I said previously, "Who is the person..."  I have my suspicions that 
Mr. Smith, with the interesting email address of [email protected], and whose 
first name is stated to be Michael, may, in fact, be someone else who wants to 
poke at us with a different approach than his usual one.  Any guesses?  I have 
mine.  And by the way, I chose clinical psychology over medicine and did have 
the choice since I was admitted to both.  Sounds like sour grapes to me, or 
just another jab.

Bob

---- Original message ----
>Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:28:12 -0600
>From: Michael Smith <[email protected]>  
>Subject: Re: [tips] I have no interest in research  
>To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]>
>
>   I don't think a physician needs to be a medical
>   researcher to be a good physician.
>   To me, this again seems like this condescending
>   attitude among at least some people in "scientific
>   psychology".
>
>    
>
>   That is, if you don't do research:
>   you won't be able to think properly,
>   you won't be up on stuff within your field,
>   you won't be able to assess research any better than
>   a grade school kid,
>   you will be an easy mark for any extremist views,
>   etc. etc.
>   Never mind that most people in "scientific
>   psychology" couldn't make the med-school cut no
>   matter how hard they tried.
>   Perhaps psychological education should include a
>   class in humility
>
>   
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                
Bob Wildblood, PhD, HSPP
Lecturer in Psychology
Indiana University Kokomo
Kokomo, IN  46904-9003
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