A bar is a good metaphor although I think of TIPS more as the psych department 
faculty lounge free-for-all where people sometimes joke around, sometimes share 
helpful information, sometimes say things totally off-the wall, sometimes gripe 
about administration (the dark side) and just generally spend time building 
community. Also, it seems less stalkerish to think of me listening in to a 
colleague's conversation at a faculty lounge than a stranger's conversation at 
a bar. :)

Rick

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-----Original Message-----
From: Frantz, Sue [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:53 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: RE: Fwd: RE: [tips] Change or Die: Scholarly E-Mail Lists, Once 
Vibrant, Fight for Relevance

In terms of permanent record storage (or at least as permanent as we can get), 
nothing will beat the printed, as in hard-copy, word.  (Although an argument 
can be made for the oral tradition.)

Having said that, while I like the idea of a TIPS archive, I've rarely made use 
of it. For me, the value of TIPS lies in the sense of community that it brings, 
not the list of books someone posted 3 years ago. If I want that list of books, 
it's not only easier to ask for that list again, but I may also get additional 
book recommendations with more recent publication dates as well as the benefit 
of hearing from people who have joined the list in the last 3 years.

For me, TIPS is like a bar.  I'll sit over here and listen in on this 
conversation for awhile.  Then I'll move over there and listen to that 
conversation.  (I learned a long time ago that I don't have to pay attention to 
every conversation.) Then I'll go have a beer. (With this list, that often 
helps.)  In a bar there might be a conversation I wish I could record, but for 
the most part I'm happy with jotting down a couple helpful tips on a napkin 
(serviette for those who have a different definition of napkin).

Changing communication tools and the lack of technological compatibility among 
tools doesn't bother me if the goal is to create and maintain a community.

My 3-post limit for the day,
Sue

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Sue Frantz                                         Highline Community College
Psychology, Coordinator                Des Moines, WA
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