Rick Froman quotes the new APA manual on page 34 as: "For inferential 
statistical tests (e.g., t, F, and chi square tests), include the obtained 
value or magnitude of the test statistic, the degrees of freedom, the 
probability of obtaining a value as extreme or more extreme than the one 
obtained (the exact p value), and the size and direction of the effect."
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It is impossible to know what the probability is of obtaining a value as 
extreme or more extreme than the one obtained and p values certainly don't tell 
us that. Why should we submit to instructions from people who don't know what 
they are talking about?

Bill Scott


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