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I think that US and British officials *requested* a backdoor welcome. Obviously that request was not granted. It is always shocking to Americans when other countries really don't care what the U.S. thinks or requests. Marie -----Original Message----- From: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) digest <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu> To: tips digest recipients <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu> Sent: Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:01 am Subject: tips digest: August 21, 2009 Subject: tips digest: August 21, 2009 From: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) digest" <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu> Reply-To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu> Date: Sa t, 22 Aug 2009 00:01:35 -0400 TIPS Digest for Friday, August 21, 2009. 1. UFOs/British open minded 2. RE: The ten worst rock'n'roll career moves - 1 3. RE: UFOs/British open minded 4. The compassion of Braveheart 5. Eat, Pray, Love 6. What Does Tenure Protect? 7. The Rational Infant 2: The Response 8. Re: The compassion of Braveheart 9. Re: What Does Tenure Protect? 10. RE: What Does Tenure Protect? 11. Re: What Does Tenure Protect? 12. Re: The compassion of Braveheart 13. Drop the pants! 14. RE: Drop the pants! 15. Re: The compassion of Braveheart 16. RE: The compassion of Braveheart 17. RE: The compassion of Braveheart 18. RE: The compassion of Braveheart 19. =?iso-88 59-1?Q?lost-hiker_d=E9j=E0_vu?= 20. Re: The compassion of Braveheart 21. What Will We Be Talking About Next Week? 22. Re: The compassion of Braveheart 23. stats on iraq war vet suicides --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tips&text_mode=0&lang=english Attached Message From: Allen Esterson <allenester...@compuserve.com> Subject: UFOs/British open minded Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:40:31 -0400 [tips] UFOs/British open minded On 19 August 209 Michael Sylvester wrote: > The Brits have released 19 years of data collection on UFO and >alien 20visitations.In contrast to the debunking of such alleged >appearances in the U.S, the Brits appear open-minded to the possibility. I looked in vain for any citation relating to this assertion in this TIPS thread. Here is one, from The Guardian: >This is the fourth batch of UFO files to be released since May last year and it indicates the MoD has been unwavering in its belief there is "no evidence whatsoever to suggest that intelligent life from outer space or alien spacecraft have landed on our planet".< http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/17/mod-report-ufo-sightings Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London http://www.esterson.org ------------------------------------------ --------------- michael sylvester Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:44:49 -0700 The Brits have released 19 years of data collection on UFO and alien visitations.In contrast to the debunking of such alleged appearances in the U.S,the Brits appear open-minded to the possibility. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida Attached Message From: Stuart McKelvie <smcke...@ubishops.ca> Subject: RE: The ten worst rock'n'roll career moves - 1 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:05:10 -0400 Dear Tipsters, Chris issued a wee challenge. The Independent says: "Expect to wince as a faux-moody, Howlin Wolf-esque version of Silent Night hits the charts this December, forcing Dylan loyalists, once again, to come to terms with their hero dismantling his recent artistic success." Or: To relish yet another music genre that presently includes folk, rock, rap, country, jazz, blues, gospel. Remember: "Some people they tell me, I got the blood of the land in my voice". Bring it on, I say. Sincerely, Stuart _____________________________________________________ Sent via Web Access "Floreat Labore" "Recti cultus pectora roborant" Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: 819 822 9600 x 2402 Department of Psychology, Fax: 819 822 9661 Bishop's University, 2600 rue College, Sherbrooke, Québec J1M 1Z7, Canada. E-mail: stuart.mckel...@ubishops.ca (or smcke...@ubishops.ca) Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy " Floreat Labore" _______________________________________________________ ________________________________________ From: Christopher D. Green [chri...@yorku.ca] Sent: 20 August 2009 22:22 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] The ten worst rock'n'roll career moves - 1=0 D Was someone I know extolling the virtues of Bob Dylan? :-) The Independent is not amused. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/the-top-ten-disastrous-rocknroll-career-moves-1774270.html?action=Popup Chris -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada 416-736-2100 ex. 66164 chri...@yorku.ca<mailto:chri...@yorku.ca> http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ ========================== --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Attached Message From: Pollak, Edward <epol...@wcupa.edu> =0 ASubject: RE: UFOs/British open minded Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:03:14 -0400 Some shorter & more entertaining (but less thorough) clips are from James Randi. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39PM03iVbqE and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dp2Zqk8vHw There are several others that might also be useful if you search for "James Randi" on YouTube. Ed Edward I. Pollak, Ph.D. Department of Psychology West Chester University of Pennsylvania http://home.comcast.net/~epollak ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Husband, father, grandfather, biopsychologist, bluegrass fiddler and herpetoculturi st...... in approximate order of importance. Subject: RE: UFOs/British open minded From: Marc Carter <marc.car...@bakeru.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:03:41 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7 This is great. In my intro class tomorrow I'm going to start talking about science and why it works; this might be a nice intro for that. I only wish it were a little shorter... Attached Message From: michael sylvester <msylves...@copper.net> Subject: The compassion of Braveheart Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:43:01 -0400 The release of the Libyan terrorist=2 0by Scottish authorities so that he could spend his terminal days at home and with family is an example of differential cross-cultural attitudes between Europe and the U.S. Obviously it demonstrates that Scottish judges took into account that there is more to justice than the tit-for-tat mentality of the Americans. It is interesting that the Europeans weigh various aspects of consequences of certain actions and did not blindly reject the human element that to even in our worse hour , being compassionate is truly the quintessential human quality. There are other attitudes that distinguishes Europeans from the Americans in terms of prostitution,addiction,euthanasia,death penalty and many other. One distinguishing characteristic between the two continents is that there is an ambivalence about values in U.S culture and Americans appear to have a need to seek approval.As the cross-cultural dude on Tips,the Sottish justice system seem to take into account that justice may lead to some incarceration,compassion is right and needs no consensus from across the ocean.We all regret the loss of lives,but two wrongs do not make a right. This is beginning to remind me of bumper stickers I used to see in Florida "We don't care how you do it up North." Europeans may be expressing a similar theme-"We don't care how you do it in the U.S" I understand that in some European countr ies even the a life sentence is viewed as cruel. So Stuart Mc Kelvie-Hail Scotland! Michael Sylvester.PhD Daytona Beach,Florida Attached Message From: Rob Weisskirch <rweisski...@csumb.edu> Subject: Eat, Pray, Love Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:50:33 -0700 A fine piece of narcissism from the author. She comes across as a self-indulgent poser in everything she does. I found her story annoying, her annoying, and any proceeds she receives misdirected. I only am grateful I did not pay for the book and read it on a loa n. Save your money. Rob Rob Weisskirch, MSW. Ph.D. Associate Professor of Human Development Certified Family Life Educator Liberal Studies Department California State University, Monterey Bay 100 Campus Center, Building 82C Seaside, CA 93955 (831) 582-5079 rweisski...@csumb.edu This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. Attached Message From: Mike Palij <m...@nyu.edu> Subject: What Does Tenure Protect? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:05:20 -0400 In the NY Times there is a "discussion" about John C. Yoo who is best known as the author of the "torture memos" which laid out the legal rationale for the use of "enhanced interrogation" techniques. Yoo, prior to joining the Bush White House, was a tenured professor at UC-Berkeley's law school, a position he has returned to amidst much "discussion". Several lawyers and academics, including the current AAUP president Cary Nelson, try to review the issues and whether the UC system should fire Yoo for his activities in the Bush administration. See: http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/20/torture-and-academic-freedom/ Yoo's siutation is apparently quite complex and whether he will be held accountable for his activities is unclear (if the Obama Dept of Justice was more interested in prosecuting members of the Bush admin for alleged war crimes, this would be less uncertain). Of direct relevance to TiPS are the following issues presented by the lawyer/professor Brian Leiter; quoting from the NY Times: | |As a contractual and perhaps constitutional matter, Professor Yoo |cannot be fired or penalized for the content of his scholarship and |teaching, unless it involves research misconduct or intellectual dishonesty. |A faculty member can also be disciplined by the university if convicted |by a court of a serious criminal violation. Berkeley's regulations |on this score are typical. | |Professor Yoo has defended his views about executive power in |scholarly journals. Other scholars have defended similar views. |Professor Yoo has not committed research misconduct. He has |defended his views about executive power in scholarly journals, |as well as in the memoranda he wrote as an attorney for the government. |Other scholars have defended similar views. One may think (as I do) |such views implausible, badly argued and morally odious, but they |do not involve "research misconduct." | |If "research misconduct" or "intellectual dishonesty"=2 0were |interpreted to cover what he has done then there would be nothing |left of academic freedom, since every disagreement on the merits |of a position, especially a minority position in the scholarly community, |could be turned into a "research misconduct" charge that would lead |to disciplinary proceedings and possible termination. (Something like |this happened, in part, in the Ward Churchill case.) Interesting mixture of "research misconduct", "intellectual dishonesty", and "justifying torture". There are other considerations, particularly legal technicalities, which are relevant but better handled by legal scholars (e.g., see the following article, particularly pages 457-8, http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/roomfordebate/Clark- Torture-Memo-2005.pdf ). -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu Attached Message From: Mike Palij <m...@nyu.edu> Subject: The Rational Infant 2: The Response Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:19:36 -0400 Previously, I had quoted and posted the URL for Alison Gopnik's Op-Ed in the NY Times. The Times has received a few letters in response which some might find of interest; see: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/21/opinion/l21babies.html The writers are mostly academic types. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu Attached Message From: Paul Brandon <paul.bran...@mnsu.edu> Subject: Re: The compassion of Braveheart Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:23:16 -0500 or maybe just the fact that most of the dead were Americans, not Scots. On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:43 AM, michael sylvester wrote: The release of the Libyan terrorist by Scottish authorities so that he could spend his terminal days at home and with family is an example of differential cross-cultural attitudes between Europe and the U.S. Obviously it demonstrates that Scottish judges took into account that there is more to justice than the tit-for-t at mentality of the Americans. It is interesting that the Europeans weigh various aspects of consequences of certain actions and did not blindly reject the human element that to even in our worse hour , being compassionate is truly the quintessential human quality. There are other attitudes that distinguishes Europeans from the Americans in terms of prostitution,addiction,euthanasia,death penalty and many other. One distinguishing characteristic between the two continents is that there is an ambivalence about values in U.S culture and Americans appear to have a need to seek approval.As the cross-cultural dude on Tips,the Sottish justice system seem to take into account that justice may lead to some incarceration,compassion is right and needs no consensus from across the ocean.We all regret the loss of lives,but two wrongs do not make a right. This is beginning to remind me of bumper stickers I used to see in Florida "We don't care how you do it up North." Europeans may be expressing a similar theme-"We don't care how you do it in the U.S" I understand that in some European countries even the a life sentence is viewed as cruel. Paul Brandon Emeritus Professor of Psychology Minnesota State University, Mankato paul.bran...@mnsu.edu Attached Message 0D From: Christopher Green <chri...@yorku.ca> Subject: Re: What Does Tenure Protect? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:52:46 -0400 It seems to me that the matter is actually fairly clear (though it is superficially juicy enough that the media is pumping it for all it's worth). As much as I may personally despise Yoo's legal opinions, if the US government is unwilling to prosecute Yoo with a criminal offense, then one can hardly expect his employer to leap into the breach in their stead (and if they did, it would begin a very expensive legal and public relations brouhaha from which UC Berkeley might not actually recover). If Yoo were convicted of something, he could be fired. If he is not convicted of anything, then there is no legal basis on which to over-ride the protections of tenure. The rhetorical question of "what tenure protects?" in this case is exactly parallel to the question of "what the right to remain silent protects?" when faced with a person who is well known to have committed a crime, if not yet actually convicted of it. It protects everyone else who the police might want to arrest who have done nothing illegal. And in the case of tenure, it protects all those other people who university boards might want to fire because they have uttered embarrassing truths, but done nothing illegal. 0D Now what might make the Yoo case a little more interesting, would be if some International (or other national) court were to convict him of War Crimes, or such like (presumably in absentia, because he'd be a fool to appear before them). That would make Berkeley's position a little more uncomfortable (though I suspect, in the end, they would do nothing). Regards, Chris Green York U. Toronto Mike Palij wrote: > In the NY Times there is a "discussion" about John C. Yoo who > is best known as the author of the "torture memos" which laid out > the legal rationale for the use of "enhanced interrogation" techniques. > Yoo, prior to joining the Bush White House, was a tenured professo r > at UC-Berkeley's law school, a position he has returned to amidst > much "discussion". Several lawyers and academics, including the > current AAUP president Cary Nelson, try to review the issues > and whether the UC system should fire Yoo for his activities in > the Bush administration. See: > > http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/20/torture-and-academic-freedom/ > > Yoo's siutation is apparently quite complex and whether he will be > held accountable for his activities is unclear (if the Obama Dept of > Justice was more interested in prosecuting members of the Bush > admin for alleged war crimes, this would be less uncertain). > > Of direct relevance to TiPS are the followi ng issues presented by > the lawyer/professor Brian Leiter; quoting from the NY Times: > | > |As a contractual and perhaps constitutional matter, Professor Yoo > |cannot be fired or penalized for the content of his scholarship and > |teaching, unless it involves research misconduct or intellectual dishonesty. > |A faculty member can also be disciplined by the university if convicted > |by a court of a serious criminal violation. Berkeley's regulations > |on this score are typical. > | > |Professor Yoo has defended his views about executive power in > |scholarly journals. Other scholars have defended similar views. > |Professor Yoo has not committed research misconduct. He has > |defended his views a bout executive power in scholarly journals, > |as well as in the memoranda he wrote as an attorney for the government. > |Other scholars have defended similar views. One may think (as I do) > |such views implausible, badly argued and morally odious, but they > |do not involve "research misconduct." > | > |If "research misconduct" or "intellectual dishonesty" were > |interpreted to cover what he has done then there would be nothing > |left of academic freedom, since every disagreement on the merits > |of a position, especially a minority position in the scholarly community, > |could be turned into a "research misconduct" charge that would lead > |to disciplinary proceedings and possible termination. (Som ething like > |this happened, in part, in the Ward Churchill case.) > > Interesting mixture of "research misconduct", "intellectual dishonesty", > and "justifying torture". There are other considerations, particularly > legal technicalities, which are relevant but better handled by legal > scholars (e.g., see the following article, particularly pages 457-8, > http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/roomfordebate/Clark-Torture-Memo-2005.pdf ). > > -Mike Palij > New York University > m...@nyu.edu > > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) > > -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo Office: 416-736-2100 ext. 66164 Fax: 416-736-5814 ========================= Attached Message From: Rick Froman <rfro...@jbu.edu> Subject: RE: What Does Tenure Protect? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:02:16 -0500 I can see lawyers wanting to disbar (or even file a civil lawsuit) against someone on the basis of legal malpractice for giving bad legal advice but I don't suppose many want to set the precedent of trying someone criminally for the legal advice they gave (unless the advice-giver w as not licensed as an attorney). Rick Dr. Rick Froman, Chair Division of Humanities and Social Sciences Professor of Psychology Box 3055 John Brown University 2000 W. University Siloam Springs, AR 72761 rfro...@jbu.edu (479)524-7295 http://tinyurl.com/DrFroman Forwarding any part of this e-mail to the White House is strictly prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Green [mailto:chri...@yorku.ca] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:53 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] What Does Tenure Protect? It seems to me that the matter is actually fairly clear (though it is superficially juicy enough that the media is pumping it for all it 's worth). As much as I may personally despise Yoo's legal opinions, if the US government is unwilling to prosecute Yoo with a criminal offense, then one can hardly expect his employer to leap into the breach in their stead (and if they did, it would begin a very expensive legal and public relations brouhaha from which UC Berkeley might not actually recover). If Yoo were convicted of something, he could be fired. If he is not convicted of anything, then there is no legal basis on which to over-ride the protections of tenure. The rhetorical question of "what tenure protects?" in this case is exactly parallel to the question of "what the right to remain silent protects?" when faced with a person w ho is well known to have committed a crime, if not yet actually convicted of it. It protects everyone else who the police might want to arrest who have done nothing illegal. And in the case of tenure, it protects all those other people who university boards might want to fire because they have uttered embarrassing truths, but done nothing illegal. Now what might make the Yoo case a little more interesting, would be if some International (or other national) court were to convict him of War Crimes, or such like (presumably in absentia, because he'd be a fool to appear before them). That would make Berkeley's position a little more uncomfortable (though I suspect, in the end, they would do nothing). Regards, Chris Green York U. Toronto Mike Palij wrote: > In the NY Times there is a "discussion" about John C. Yoo who > is best known as the author of the "torture memos" which laid out > the legal rationale for the use of "enhanced interrogation" techniques. > Yoo, prior to joining the Bush White House, was a tenured professor > at UC-Berkeley's law school, a position he has returned to amidst > much "discussion". Several lawyers and academics, including the > current AAUP president Cary Nelson, try to review the issues > and whether the UC system should fire Yoo for his activities in > the Bush administration. See: > > http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/20/torture- and-academic-freedom/ > > Yoo's siutation is apparently quite complex and whether he will be > held accountable for his activities is unclear (if the Obama Dept of > Justice was more interested in prosecuting members of the Bush > admin for alleged war crimes, this would be less uncertain). > > Of direct relevance to TiPS are the following issues presented by > the lawyer/professor Brian Leiter; quoting from the NY Times: > | > |As a contractual and perhaps constitutional matter, Professor Yoo > |cannot be fired or penalized for the content of his scholarship and > |teaching, unless it involves research misconduct or intellectual dishonesty. > |A faculty member can also be disciplined by the universit y if convicted > |by a court of a serious criminal violation. Berkeley's regulations > |on this score are typical. > | > |Professor Yoo has defended his views about executive power in > |scholarly journals. Other scholars have defended similar views. > |Professor Yoo has not committed research misconduct. He has > |defended his views about executive power in scholarly journals, > |as well as in the memoranda he wrote as an attorney for the government. > |Other scholars have defended similar views. One may think (as I do) > |such views implausible, badly argued and morally odious, but they > |do not involve "research misconduct." > | > |If "research misconduct" or "intellectual dishonesty" were 0A> |interpreted to cover what he has done then there would be nothing > |left of academic freedom, since every disagreement on the merits > |of a position, especially a minority position in the scholarly community, > |could be turned into a "research misconduct" charge that would lead > |to disciplinary proceedings and possible termination. (Something like > |this happened, in part, in the Ward Churchill case.) > > Interesting mixture of "research misconduct", "intellectual dishonesty", > and "justifying torture". There are other considerations, particularly > legal technicalities, which are relevant but better handled by legal > scholars (e.g., see the following article, particularly pages 457-8, > http://graphic s8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/roomfordebate/Clark-Torture-Memo-2005.pdf ). > > -Mike Palij > New York University > m...@nyu.edu > > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) > > -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo Office: 416-736-2100 ext. 66164 Fax: 416-736-5814 ========================= --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Attached Message From: Paul Brandon <paul.bran...@mnsu.edu> Subject: Re: What Does Tenure Protect? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:09:50 -0500 It seems to me that the question really is what Berkeley's faculty contract specifies. If a clean criminal record is stated as a condition of employment, then UCB (the State of California) would have clear grounds for firing him. Otherwise, if he is meeting the terms of his contract (including its definition of job competence) he should be protected by tenure. Tenure usually puts the onus of proof on the employer: they would have to prove that he was violating the conditions of his employment. On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Christopher Green wrote: 0A> It seems to me that the matter is actually fairly clear (though it is > superficially juicy enough that the media is pumping it for all it's > worth). As much as I may personally despise Yoo's legal opinions, > if the > US government is unwilling to prosecute Yoo with a criminal offense, > then one can hardly expect his employer to leap into the breach in > their > stead (and if they did, it would begin a very expensive legal and > public > relations brouhaha from which UC Berkeley might not actually recover). > If Yoo were convicted of something, he could be fired. If he is not > convicted of anything, then there is no legal basis on which to > over-ride the protections of tenu re. > > The rhetorical question of "what tenure protects?" in this case is > exactly parallel to the question of "what the right to remain silent > protects?" when faced with a person who is well known to have > committed > a crime, if not yet actually convicted of it. It protects everyone > else > who the police might want to arrest who have done nothing illegal. And > in the case of tenure, it protects all those other people who > university > boards might want to fire because they have uttered embarrassing > truths, > but done nothing illegal. > > Now what might make the Yoo case a little more interesting, would > be if > some International (or other national) court were to convict him of > War > Crimes, or such like (presumably in absentia, because he'd be a > fool to > appear before them). That would make Berkeley's position a little more > uncomfortable (though I suspect, in the end, they would do nothing). > > Regards, > Chris Green > York U. > Toronto > > Mike Palij wrote: >> In the NY Times there is a "discussion" about John C. Yoo who >> is best known as the author of the "torture memos" which laid out >> the legal rationale for the use of "enhanced interrogation" >> techniques. >> Yoo, prior to joining the Bush White House, was a tenured professor >> at UC-Berkeley's law school, a position he has returned to amidst >> much "discussion". Several lawyers and academics, including the >> current AAUP president Cary Nelson, try to review the issues >> and whether the UC system should fire Yoo for his activities in >> the Bush administration. See: >> >> http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/20/torture-and- >> academic-freedom/ >> >> Yoo's siutation is apparently quite complex and whether he will be >> held accountable for his activities is unclear (if the Obama Dept of >> Justice was more interested in prosecuting members of the Bush >> admin for alleged war crimes, this would be less uncertain). >> >> Of direct relevance to TiPS are the following issues presented by >> the lawyer/professor Brian Leiter; quoting from the NY T imes: >> | >> |As a contractual and perhaps constitutional matter, Professor Yoo >> |cannot be fired or penalized for the content of his scholarship and >> |teaching, unless it involves research misconduct or intellectual >> dishonesty. >> |A faculty member can also be disciplined by the university if >> convicted >> |by a court of a serious criminal violation. Berkeley's regulations >> |on this score are typical. >> | >> |Professor Yoo has defended his views about executive power in >> |scholarly journals. Other scholars have defended similar views. >> |Professor Yoo has not committed research misconduct. He has >> |defended his views about executive power in scholarly journals, >> |as well as in the m emoranda he wrote as an attorney for the >> government. >> |Other scholars have defended similar views. One may think (as I do) >> |such views implausible, badly argued and morally odious, but they >> |do not involve "research misconduct." >> | >> |If "research misconduct" or "intellectual dishonesty" were >> |interpreted to cover what he has done then there would be nothing >> |left of academic freedom, since every disagreement on the merits >> |of a position, especially a minority position in the scholarly >> community, >> |could be turned into a "research misconduct" charge that would lead >> |to disciplinary proceedings and possible termination. (Something >> like >> |this happened, in part, in the War d Churchill case.) >> >> Interesting mixture of "research misconduct", "intellectual >> dishonesty", >> and "justifying torture". There are other considerations, >> particularly >> legal technicalities, which are relevant but better handled by legal >> scholars (e.g., see the following article, particularly pages 457-8, >> http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/roomfordebate/Clark- >> Torture-Memo-2005.pdf ). >> >> -Mike Palij >> New York University >> m...@nyu.edu >> >> >> --- >> To make changes to your subscription contact: >> >> Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) >> >> > > -- > Christopher D. Green > Department of Psychology > York University > Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 > > chri...@yorku. ca > http://www.yorku.ca/christo > Office: 416-736-2100 ext. 66164 > Fax: 416-736-5814 > ========================= > > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Paul Brandon 10 Crown Hill Lane Mankato, MN 56001 pkbra...@hickorytech.net Attached Message From: Michael Smith <tipsl...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: The compassion of Braveheart Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:11:51 -0600 Or rabid liberalism raises its cancerous head yet once again --Mike =0 A On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, michael sylvester <msylves...@copper.net> wrote: The release of the Libyan terrorist by Scottish authorities so that he could spend his terminal days at home and with family is an example of differential cross-cultural attitudes between Europe and the U.S. Obviously it demonstrates that Scottish judges took into account that there is more to justice than the tit-for-tat mentality of the Americans. It is interesting that the Europeans weigh various aspects of consequences of certain actions and did not blindly reject the human element that to even in our worse hour , being compassionate is truly the quintessential human quality. There are other attitudes that distinguishes Europeans from the Americans in terms of prostitution,addiction,euthanasia,death penalty and many other. One distinguishing characteristic between the two continents is that there is an ambivalence about values in U.S culture and Americans appear to have a need to seek approval.As the cross-cultural dude on Tips,the Sottish justice system seem to take into account that justice may lead to some incarceration,compassion is right and needs no consensus from across the ocean.We all regret the loss of lives,but two wrongs do not make a right. This is beginning to remind me of bumper stickers I used to see in Florida "We don't care how=2 0you do it up North." Europeans may be expressing a similar theme-"We don't care how you do it in the U.S" I understand that in some European countries even the a life sentence is viewed as cruel. So Stuart Mc Kelvie-Hail Scotland! Michael Sylvester.PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Attached Message From: michael sylvester <msylves...@copper.net> Subject: Drop the pants! Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:49:53 -0400 Normally this would be the command we would give if we were trying to assess if someone was male or female. However a track and field event has raised questions as to whether an alleged female athelete from South Africa is he or a she.External characteristics like voice and muscular speed characteristics would indicate of a phenotypic male.This could be a teachable moment to discuss sex and gender in class.Apparently it will be DNA that will determine the sexuality.Some individuals have been labelled "intersex" because of the lack of or excess characteristics differentiating male from female. Btw, would tenure protect a prof by asking a student to "drop the pants "if a prof could not tell if the student was male or female? Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida Attached Message From: Manza, Louis <ma...@lvc.edu> Subject: RE: Drop the pants! Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:54:47 -0400 Why would you even ask a student that question? And I don’t think tenure would help . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Lou Manza, Professor & Chairperson, Department of Psychology, Lebanon Valley College, Annville, PA 17003 Phone: (717) 867-6193; Fax: (717) 867-6894; E-Mail: ma...@lvc.edu "Run when you can, walk when you have to, crawl if you must; just never give up." --- Dean Karnazes - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - =0 A This e-mail is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or disclosure of this information is strictly prohibited. Your compliance is appreciated. From: michael sylvester [mailto:msylves...@copper.net] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:50 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Drop the pants! Normally this would be the command we would give if we were trying to assess if someone wa s male or female. However a track and field event has raised questions as to whether an alleged female athelete from South Africa is he or a she.External characteristics like voice and muscular speed characteristics would indicate of a phenotypic male.This could be a teachable moment to discuss sex and gender in class.Apparently it will be DNA that will determine the sexuality.Some individuals have been labelled "intersex" because of the lack of or excess characteristics differentiating male from female. Btw, would tenure protect a prof by asking a student to "drop the pants "if a prof could not tell if the student was male or female? =C 2� Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Attached Message From: Christopher D. Green <chri...@yorku.ca> Subject: Re: The compassion of Braveheart Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:15:51 -0400 Partly it is because American public opinion has become increasingly out of step with the rest of the "developed" world on so many socio-political issues (education, government, crime, guns, drugs, abortion, welfare, health, etc.) over the past 30 years, that American attitudes are now just expected to be fairly "alien" and increasingly irrelevant to parallel debates in other countries. (This is not to say that American *should* line up with everyone else, just that they *don't*, and haven't for such a long time that it is regarded as a brute fact rather than a minor fluctuation on which there will eventually be more accord.) On this particular case, I was astonished (well, not really) to hear many Americans (and a few Brits) ask rhetorically why this man should be shown any compassion because (if he indeed did it) he didn't show any compassion to those who were killed on the flight. Well, because I would think that we * want* to show more compassion than a cold-blooded mass murderer (even to a mass murderer), that's why. It seems quite bizarre that we would let our own moral sense be dictated by the moral sense of someone we have declared to be immoral. Regards, Chris Green York U. Toronto ============== michael sylvester wrote: The release of the Libyan terrorist by Scottish authorities so that he could spend his terminal days at home and with family is an example of differential cross-cultural attitudes between Europe and the U.S. Obviously it demonstrates that Scottish judges took into account that there is more to justice than the tit-for-tat 20mentality of the Americans. It is interesting that the Europeans weigh various aspects of consequences of certain actions and did not blindly reject the human element that to even in our worse hour , being compassionate is truly the quintessential human quality. There are other attitudes that distinguishes Europeans from the Americans in terms of prostitution,addiction,euthanasia,death penalty and many other. One distinguishing characteristic between the two continents is that there is an ambivalence about values in U.S culture and Americans appear to have a need to seek approval.As the cross-cultural dude on Tips,the Sottish justice system seem to take into account that justice may lead=2 0to some incarceration,compassion is right and needs no consensus from across the ocean.We all regret the loss of lives,but two wrongs do not make a right. This is beginning to remind me of bumper stickers I used to see in Florida "We don't care how you do it up North." Europeans may be expressing a similar theme-"We don't care how you do it in the U.S" I understand that in some European countries even the a life sentence is viewed as cruel. So Stuart Mc Kelvie-Hail Scotland! Michael Sylvester.PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada 416-736-2100 ex. 66164 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ ========================== Attached Message From: Rick Froman <rfro...@jbu.edu> Subject: RE: The compassion of Braveheart Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:58:59 -0500 Are there also cultures that think it is a good idea to welcome a mass murderer of innocent people home with the equivalent of a ticker tape parade when they had agreed that they would basically bring him in through the back door so he could compassionately spend his final days with his family? Rick Dr. Rick Froman rfro...@jbu.edu<mailto:rfro...@jbu.edu> ________________________________ From: michael sylvester [msylves...@copper.net] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:43 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] The compassion of Braveheart The release of the Libyan terrorist by Scottish authorities so that he could spend his terminal days at home and with family is an example of differential cross-cultural attitudes between Europe and the U.S. Obviously it demonstrates that Scottish judges took into account that there is more to justice th an the tit-for-tat mentality of the Americans. It is interesting that the Europeans weigh various aspects of consequences of certain actions and did not blindly reject the human element that to even in our worse hour , being compassionate is truly the quintessential human quality. There are other attitudes that distinguishes Europeans from the Americans in terms of prostitution,addiction,euthanasia,death penalty and many other. One distinguishing characteristic between the two continents is that there is an ambivalence about values in U.S culture and Americans appear to have a need to seek approval.As the cross-cultural dude on Tips,the Sottish justice system seem to take into account that justi ce may lead to some incarceration,compassion is right and needs no consensus from across the ocean.We all regret the loss of lives,but two wrongs do not make a right. This is beginning to remind me of bumper stickers I used to see in Florida "We don't care how you do it up North." Europeans may be expressing a similar theme-"We don't care how you do it in the U.S" I understand that in some European countries even the a life sentence is viewed as cruel. So Stuart Mc Kelvie-Hail Scotland! Michael Sylvester.PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) 0D Attached Message From: Stuart McKelvie <smcke...@ubishops.ca> Subject: RE: The compassion of Braveheart Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:25:15 -0400 Dear Michael and Other Tipsters, On CNN, there was a very interesting interview with the Scottish politician who made the decision and accepted that “the buck stops here”. Despite goading by Wolf Blitzer that he would be forever associated with his decision and that he would have to live with it for the rest of his life, he stuck to a clear, well-formulated argument. Agree or disagree with him, his plain speakin g was a welcome breath of fresh air. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/08/20/transcript.lockerbie.bomber/ All Hail, MacAskill! Sincerely, Stuart _____________________________________________________ "Floreat Labore" � � "Recti cultus pectora roborant" Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: 819 822 9600 x 2402 Department of Psychology, Fax: 819 822 9661 Bishop's University, 2600 rue College, Sherbrooke, Québec J1M 1Z7, Canada. E-mail: stuart.mckel...@ubishops.ca (or smcke...@ubishops.ca) �=A 0 Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy Floreat Labore" _______________________________________________________ From: michael sylvester [mailto:msylves...@copper.net] Sent: August 21, 2009 11:43 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] The compassion of Bravehear t The release of the Libyan terrorist by Scottish authorities so that he could spend his terminal days at home and with family is an example of differential cross-cultural attitudes between Europe and the U.S. Obviously it demonstrates that Scottish judges took into account that there is more to justice than the tit-for-tat mentality of the Americans. It is interesting that the Europeans weigh various aspects of consequences of certain actions and did not blindly reject the human element that to even in our worse hour , being compassionate is truly the quintessential human quality. There are other attitudes that distinguishes Europeans from the Americans in terms of prostitution,addiction,euthanasia,death penalty and many other. One distinguishing characteristic between the two continents is that there is an ambivalence about values in U.S culture and Americans appear to have a need to seek approval.As the cross-cultural dude on Tips,the Sottish justice system seem to take into account that justice may lead to some incarceration,compassion is right and needs no consensus from across the ocean.We all regret the loss of lives,but two wrongs do not make a right. This is beginning to remind me of bumper stickers I used to see in Florida "We don't care how you do it up North." Eu ropeans may be expressing a similar theme-"We don't care how you do it in the U.S" I understand that in some European countries even the a life sentence is viewed as cruel. So Stuart Mc Kelvie-Hail Scotland! Michael Sylvester.PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Attached Message From: Helweg-Larsen, Marie <helw...@dickinson.edu> Subject: RE: The compassion of Braveheart Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:31 :48 -0400 I think that US and British officials *requested* a backdoor welcome. Obviously that request was not granted. It is always shocking to Americans when other countries really don't care what the U.S. thinks or requests. Marie **************************************************** Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. Department Chair and Associate Professor of Psychology Kaufman 168, Dickinson College Carlisle, PA 17013, office (717) 245-1562, fax (717) 245-1971 http://www.dickinson.edu/departments/psych/helwegm **************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: Rick Froman [mailto:rfro...@jbu.edu] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:59 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sci ences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] The compassion of Braveheart Are there also cultures that think it is a good idea to welcome a mass murderer of innocent people home with the equivalent of a ticker tape parade when they had agreed that they would basically bring him in through the back door so he could compassionately spend his final days with his family? Rick Dr. Rick Froman rfro...@jbu.edu<mailto:rfro...@jbu.edu> ________________________________ From: michael sylvester [msylves...@copper.net] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:43 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] The compassion of Braveheart The release of the Libyan terrorist by Scottish authorities s o that he could spend his terminal days at home and with family is an example of differential cross-cultural attitudes between Europe and the U.S. Obviously it demonstrates that Scottish judges took into account that there is more to justice than the tit-for-tat mentality of the Americans. It is interesting that the Europeans weigh various aspects of consequences of certain actions and did not blindly reject the human element that to even in our worse hour , being compassionate is truly the quintessential human quality. There are other attitudes that distinguishes Europeans from the Americans in terms of prostitution,addiction,euthanasia,death penalty and many other. One distinguishing character istic between the two continents is that there is an ambivalence about values in U.S culture and Americans appear to have a need to seek approval.As the cross-cultural dude on Tips,the Sottish justice system seem to take into account that justice may lead to some incarceration,compassion is right and needs no consensus from across the ocean.We all regret the loss of lives,but two wrongs do not make a right. This is beginning to remind me of bumper stickers I used to see in Florida "We don't care how you do it up North." Europeans may be expressing a similar theme-"We don't care how you do it in the U.S" I understand that in some European countries even the a life=2 0 sentence is viewed as cruel. So Stuart Mc Kelvie-Hail Scotland! Michael Sylvester.PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Attached Message From: Frantz, Sue <sfra...@highline.edu> Subject: lost-hiker déjà vu Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:16:46 -0700 In this NY Times article, researchers discover that “lost-hiker déjà vu” does exist. http://www.nytimes.com /2009/08/21/science/21circles.html. An excerpt: Dr. Souman, who studies multisensory perception, and his colleagues tracked the movements of volunteers sent into the wilds of a German forest and the desert sands of Tunisia. As long as the sun or moon was out, the volunteers were able to walk in a straight line, more or less. But on cloudy days or when there was no moon, they looped back on themselves, often several times. Under those conditions, Dr. Souman said, the brain appears to be lacking a fundamental visual cue to help make sense of the jumble of other data it is receiving. “The brain has different sources of information for almost everything,” said Dr . Souman, who admitted to having walked in circles for hours once in the urban jungle that is Istanbul. There is a complicated interplay of different senses, he said. Those cues — images flowing over the retina, the sense of acceleration or turning in the inner ear, even how the muscles and bones are moving — are combined in the brain to give a sense of where the body is going. “But all those information sources are kind of relative,” Dr. Souman said. “They don’t tell you you are moving in the same direction as an hour ago.” For that, a view of the sun or moon or a prominent landmark like a distant mountaintop seems necessary. 20“You need those kinds of absolute cues,” he said. -- Sue Frantz Highline Community College Psychology, Coordinator Des Moines, WA 206.878.3710 x3404 sfra...@highline.edu Office of Teaching Resources in Psychology, Associate Director Project Syllabus APA Division 2: Society for the Teaching of Psychology APA's p...@cc Committe e Attached Message From: michael sylvester <msylves...@copper.net> Subject: Re: The compassion of Braveheart Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:49:31 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Froman" <rfro...@jbu.edu> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: RE: [tips] The compassion of Braveheart Are there also cultures that think it is a good idea to welcome a mass murderer of innocent people home with the equivalent of a ticker tape parade when they had agreed that they would basically bring him in through the back door so he could compassionately spend his final days with his family? Rick Dr. Rick Froman rfro...@jbu.edu<mailto:rfro...@jbu.edu> ________________________________ YES! Michael Attached Message From: Mike Palij <m...@nyu.edu> Subject: What Will We Be Talking About Next Week? Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:26:57 -0400 The U.S. weekly newsmagazine Newsweek has an article on its website by Mark Hosenball and Michael Isikoff that provides some information from the Central Intelligence Agency's inspector general's repo rt on the agency's use of "enhanced interrogation". It turns out that the CIA use certain techniques that may not have been approved in the White House legal memos, such as mock execution. See: http://www.newsweek.com/id/213188 Quoting from the article: |According to two sources-one who has read a draft of the |paper and one who was briefed on it-the report describes |how one detainee, suspected USS Cole bomber Abd al-Rahim |al-Nashiri, was threatened with a gun and a power drill during |the course of CIA interrogation. According to the sources, who |like others quoted in this article asked not to be named while |discussing sensitive information, Nashiri's interrogators brandished |the gun in an effort to 20convince him that he was going to be shot. |Interrogators also turned on a power drill and held it near him. |"The purpose was to scare him into giving [information] up," said |one of the sources. A federal law banning the use of torture |expressly forbids threatening a detainee with "imminent death." But perhaps even more disturbing is the following: |Before leaving office, Bush administration officials confirmed |that Nashiri was one of three CIA detainees subjected to waterboarding. |They also acknowledged that Nashiri was one of two al Qaeda |detainees whose detentions and interrogations were documented |at length in CIA videotapes. But senior officials of the agency's |undercover operations branch, the National Clandestine Service, |ordered that the tapes be destroyed, an action which has been |under investigation for over a year by a federal prosecutor. The real question is why has the investigation been going on for a year? -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu Attached Message From: Michael Smith <tipsl...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: The compassion of Braveheart Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0600 I think we also need to remember that it wasn't "Europeans" or "Brits" or the "Scots" who wanted the guy released. It was a single misguided indi vidual imposing his will on everyone involved. Another case of Judicial fiat by an irresponsible individual who no doubt thinks he can create a better world by forcing his opinion on everyone else. --Mike On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:49 PM, michael sylvester <msylves...@copper.net> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Froman" <rfro...@jbu.edu> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: RE: [tips] The compassion of Braveheart Are there also cultures that think it is a good idea to welcome a mass murderer of innocent people home with the e quivalent of a ticker tape parade when they had agreed that they would basically bring him in through the back door so he could compassionately spend his final days with his family? Rick Dr. Rick Froman rfro...@jbu.edu<mailto:rfro...@jbu.edu> ________________________________ YES! Michael --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Attached Message From: tay...@sandiego.edu Subject: stats on iraq war vet suicides Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:41:38 -0700 (PDT) I' ve been interested with the recent discussion of suicides among iraq war vets given that my son is on his third year-long deployment over there. He asked me for some stats because as far as he knows, this is mostly an over-reaction. Well, I started to surf the web to find some concrete stats. I can't find any. Here is one headline: Suicide Attempts for Vets Jump 500% in Five Years but no source for the information. Now I'm a bit suspicious. I know some of you are better at finding these things than I am, particularly Mike P. Can you find anything? Also, I'd like to know how the stats compare to say, 15 years ago for the military and also to the g eneral public right now. There may be more going on here and I'm always worried about how stats are being (mis)used. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 tay...@sandiego.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)