Hi

Rick and I probably differ on how we interpret the word "hint."  To me when 
someone writes "the study does not provide _clear_ evidence" of conscious 
learning and "It's _possible_" learning was independent of consciousness 
(underlining mine), then I see this as suggesting that learning was conscious.  
Others, like Rick, might read it differently.

Take care
Jim

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>>> Rick Froman <[email protected]> 20-Oct-09 11:37:49 AM >>>
What they said in the article was, "while the cognitively impaired patients may 
have the neural circuitry that permits some learning, the study does not 
provide clear evidence that these patients are conscious of what they are 
learning. 'It's possible that this learning process may be independent of 
awareness,' said Giacino. (underline mine) I wouldn't characterize that as 
hinting that it might be conscious. I think it was probably in response to a 
question about whether or not these results indicate that these patients are 
actually conscious and the authors are saying that their research does not 
provide evidence of consciousness.



Rick



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From: Jim Clark [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:46 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Recent Research using Classical Conditioning?



Hi



Here's a brief blurb on this research ... you might have to register to see it.



http://www.the-scientist.com/blog/display/55989/ 



At least from the summary here, the researchers appear to hint that the 
learning might be "conscious," which seems to me a stretch.



Take care

Jim



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>>> <[email protected]> 18-Oct-09 2:04:31 PM >>>

On 18 Oct 2009 at 12:17, Britt, Michael wrote:



> I haven't done an episode on classical conditioning so I'm looking around to 
> see if there has been

> anything interesting on the topic. Just wondering if anyone had heard of any 
> neat applications of

> classical conditioning in recent

> research?



How about this?



Bekinschtein, T. et al (2009). Classical conditioning in the

vegetative and minimally conscious state. Nature Neuroscience,

published online 20 September.



Stephen



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