Sounds like the difference between the Strong Whorfian Hypothesis and a weak 
one.  Strong would be that "thought is determined by language" (and so we can 
only think about things that our language has linguistic tokens for) but a 
weaker version would hold that "thought is influenced by language."

That help?  Or am I way off bas?

m

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> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:00 AM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> Subject: [tips] HELP: linguistic determinism and linguistic
> relativity.
>
> I have class in less than two hours and realize that I still
> can't express the difference between linguistic determinism
> and linguistic relativity.
>
> Can anyone put it succinctly for me? Every time I read my
> notes I realize taht one could be the other. But I know
> they're not. It's how I'm putting it in my notes I think but
> now I've completely confused myself! YIKES!
>
> One is that how we speak reflects how we think and accounts
> for differences in thinking (relativity); the other is that
> how we think is reflected in how we speak, and therefore
> influences our choices of words (determinism). Right? But
> then they both seem the same now.
>
> So I am trying to get students to stop saying something is
> "random" when it is "haphazard" because it reflects their way
> of thinking about things that is not quite correct. I want to
> work on their linguistic determinism and change how they even
> think about how things happen. Linguistic relativity would be
> that our language by itself changes how they think so if they
> get in the habit of just saying "haphazard" then they will
> truly understand that "random" is a systematic process.
>
> Right? Wrong? Drat!!!!!
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Annette
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> University of San Diego
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