Another problem with the MBTI, as I understand it, is that it is a grossly 
misspecified test of Jung's model of personality and personality development 
(putting aside for now the logic of that model, most of which I don't accept).  
Jung's concept of individuation implies that the healthy person expresses all 
poles of various dichotomies (e.g., anima-animus, persona-shadow, 
thinking-feeling).  For him, the circular mandala symbol ostensibly reflects 
the drive for wholeness, the fully individuated person.  Yet the MBTI has a 
forced-choice format (counterposing, for example, a thinking item against a 
feeling item), which runs directly counter to the logic of Jung's theory of 
personality. So aside from the psychometric problems with this measure that 
some have noted (the MBTI does display modest associations with some 
personality traits from other taxonomies, such as the five factor model, but 
many have challenged its predictive validity for vocational preferences, job 
performance, and the like), it's not all clear that it maps conceptually onto 
Jung's model.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Froman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:19 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: RE: [tips] MBTI

I tell my students that it is not the test per se that is a problem but the way 
it is scored and interpreted. Typologies, almost by definition will have low 
reliability if the trait is normally distributed. If a trait is bimodally 
distributed, a typology may be appropriate. However, I don't know of any 
evidence indicating that any of the traits measured by the MBTI are nonnormally 
distributed. I show the class a normal distribution and point out that, in a 
normal distribution, about two thirds of scores will be within one standard 
deviation of the mean. That means that most scores on the test are going to be 
fairly close to the opposite side of the distribution. So, assuming that the 
test has a normal standard error of measurement, the confidence interval around 
any individual's score is likely to contain a lot of real estate on the other 
side of the mean. On re-testing, there is a probability they will be classified 
into the other end of the typology which will produce low test-retest 
reliability for the typology. However, this doesn't mean the test couldn't be 
quite reliable if it were scored on a continuum instead of as a typology. But 
then I wouldn't have the joy of celebrating my INTPness. The good research that 
has supported the MBTI has generally treated the various subtests as continua 
instead of categories.

As to its theoretical validity with regard to Jung's typology (assuming 
adherence to Jungian theory to be a positive), Jung did not classify people 
into types. He encouraged finding the opposite within yourself (anima and 
animus). He would not tell someone: here's your type; celebrate it. He would 
probably encourage someone to try to find balance and harmony in his or her 
personality.

And then there is just the faddishness of the business world in attaching 
itself to the next big thing that advertises itself as being based on science.

Rick

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:50 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] MBTI

Read the chapter in Scott Lilienfeld, et al's book, Science and Pseudoscience 
in Clinical Psychology, so as to arm yourself for a battle royale with the nuts 
in admin who fall for this psychobabble BS.

Also you can get good info at skepdic.com

My colleague and I are starting a study showing that it is pure Barnum effect.

Might as well do the same but replace the MBTI with horoscopes for all the 
value it has.

Finally, EVEN IF there was a shred of validity it would be subject to the same 
criticisms as for learning styles: People function best in mixed groups, not 
work groups limited to their own style or type. You can find evidence for that 
as well if you look around.

Annette

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University of San Diego
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>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:58:37 -0500
>From: "Bourgeois, Dr. Martin" <[email protected]>
>Subject: [tips] MBTI
>To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]>
>
>I just received the following email from my university, and before responding, 
>I thought I'd get some other opinions. Here's the email:
>
>Based upon Carl Jung’s research on psychological types, the Myers-Briggs Type 
>Indicator (MBTI) was developed by Isabel Briggs Myers and her mother Katharine 
>Cook Briggs, and has become the most widely trusted personality inventory in 
>the United States and throughout the world.  Participants will complete the 
>MBTI inventory, learn about personality types, and receive their individual 
>personality profiles during this series.  In Session #1, participants will 
>complete the MBTI inventory, with program and results covered in Session #2.
>
>
>My understanding is that the MBTI is held in low regard by personality 
>psychologists, and has shown little validity. Any thoughts?
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>To make changes to your subscription contact:
>
>Bill Southerly ([email protected])

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