Tipsters I do wish I had some wonderful quote from an professor some 200 years ago saying how immature students had gotten since he was a student...I'll bet it's out there. As someone born in '72 (yes believe it, people my age are graduating with Ph.D.'s this year)... I think that young people will always be the same. Older people always think that they were different when they were young-- I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it narcissism, but you pick a label. Social psychologists, is there a name for this phenomenon? I do think that larger numbers of students that have fewer academic skills and talents entering college has affected the general reputation and experience of college, at least it appears to have here at a big state school. I still think that the advantages of this outweigh the disadvantages. After all a college degree does not equal an education. If only all my students really believed in getting an education, and not just a degree. I just try not to forget that most students are doing very well in school and enjoying it. The tyrrany of the problem students should not dominate what I do. Jennifer Ripley (Ph.D. in a couple months) Psychology Intern Virginia Commonwealth University Counseling Center Box 842525 Richmond VA 23284-2525 804-828-6200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
