At 1:51 AM -0600 8/20/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I must admit that I have only paid partial attention to this
>thread.  Paul's statement caught my eye, however, since I guess I
>had also fallen into the trap of believing the two are different.
>The basis of my belief comes from my understanding of the term
>"species".  I had understood it to refer to a group of
>individuals who could potentially interbreed and who were
>reproductively isolated from other groups.  To the extent this
>notion is an accurate reflection of the "real world", it would
>seem to suggest that variation within a species and variation
>among species are two different things.  The question then
>becomes, have we witnessed the emergence of a new reproductively
>isolated group through evolutionary principles?  Having witnessed
>change/evolution within a species seems to me to be different.
>Where am I going wrong?

As indicated earlier, the designation of a particular group as a 'species'
is somewhat arbitrary.  For instance, some biologists regard humans and
chimpanzees as members of the same species (see Jared Diamond's _The Third
Chimpanzee_).  I'm not aware that the possibility of interbreeding has ever
been tested.

'Reproductive isolation' may be geographic rather than physiological (genetic).

Second question:  how do you define 'witnessed'?
If you mean 'observed with one's own senses', then much of science depends
on evidence that has not been witnessed.
I did cite some examples in an earlier post of evolution of new species
within recorded human history.

<http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-qa.html>
and
<http://www.natcenscied.org/>
for much more specific documentation.

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