Al Cone wrote:
(snip - descriptions of Kuhn's Absolutist and Multiplist stages)
> Paul,
> Up to here, she sounds a lot like Perry.

        Yes, clearly. She doesn't claim to have been original about any of this.

> Evaluativism -
(snip again)
> And this second one sort of appears in the crack between
> Relativism and Commitment. I don't have Perry at home, but his table of
the
> stages provides for gradations between them. I'm not defending him; your
> criticisms are, I think, valid as to his population. But also, we must
consider
> that times have changed.

        I've read those gradations, and I don't think that there are any great
differences between Kuhn's descriptions and those of Perry. However, I
strongly prefer Kuhn's emphasis on evaluation of beliefs over Perry's
emphasis on commitment to beliefs. I'm aware that Perry's Commitment isn't a
return to certainty, but it worries me a bit that it could be read as such.

>       Former TIPSter John Newman developed and validated a
(snip)
>
> If you guys are still in school next week would you be so
> kind as to send these references.

        I can do it from home (this is how I'm spending my days):
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Kuhn, D. (1989). Children and adults as intuitive scientists. Psychological
Review, 96, 674-689.
Kuhn, D. (1993). Connecting scientific and informal reasoning.
Merrill-Palmer Quarterly, 39, 74-103.
Kuhn, D. (1991). The skills of argument. Cambridge: Cambridge University
Press.
Kuhn, D., Garcia-Mila, M., Zohar, A., & Andersen, C. (1995). Strategies of
knowledge acquisition. Monographs of the Society for Research in Child
Development, 60 (4, Serial No. 245).

Charney, D., Newman, J. H., & Palmquist, M. (1995). "I'm just no good at
writing":       Epistemological style and attitudes toward writing. Written
Communication, 12, 298-329.

Martin, J. E., Silva, D. G., Newman, J. H., & Thayer, J. F. (1994). An
investigation into the structure of epistemological style. Personality and
Individual Differences, 16, 617-629.

Newman, J. H., & Martin, J. E. (1989). Cognitive development and collegiate
conversation. Poster presented at the 1st convention of the American
Psychological Society, Alexandria, VA.

Newman, J. H., Mark, M. M., & Martin, J. E., (1994). Freshman seminar
programs shows limited long-term impact. Poster presented at the 6th annual
convention of the American Psychological Society, Washington, DC.
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        None of these contains the actual SAID-60 instrument. If you need it, I can
send you a copy.

Paul Smith
Alverno College
Milwaukee

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