> > At 11:53 AM 2/28/2000 -0800, Judith A. Roberts wrote:
> > >Where did the mean of 100 and standard deviation of 15 for I.Q. come
> > >from? I did not have a clue about this one, and neither did one of the
> > >other statistics instructors.
To which Steven Specht replied:
> > My guess on this would be what Mark (not myself, but the other one) said
> > about keeping some consistency with the IQ=MA/CA*100 scoring system.
> > However, the issue of not having negative IQ scores is also a contributing
> > factor with most standardized scores that get reported to the general
> > public (SAT, GRE, etc.) How would you explain to a parent that their child
> > had a negative IQ or negative achievement? Just avoid the situation by
> > rescaling things to ease interpretation.
>
> I don't think folks are "rescaling" to prevent negative numbers or to avoid
> some situation. That strikes me as implying that, once again, statisticians
> are somehow arbitrarily manipulating numbers for some "convenience" rather
> than for some sound reason. I think most statisticians have better things to
> do (and get paid well for it).
> In order to get negative numbers with the IQ (Intelligence *Quotient*), one of
> the numbers in the ratio would have to be negative. Chronological age, for all
> intents and purposes, cannot be less than zero (unless you're referring to
> fetal age perhaps... but that could be included in the positive as well,
> technically). And mental age of less than zero really wouldn't make sense
> either, unless you're referring to some sort of Buddhist pre-life. Neither of
> these values makes any sense if they were negative. Therefore the quotient
> can't be negative, by definition of the concept, not by rescaling of the
> numbers.
Well, no. There are two approaches confused in the foregoing, it seems to me.
Early on, a "mental age" was calculated and a ratio of that MA to chronological
age was calculated and multiplied by 100 to get an IQ. The multiplication by
100 avoided having to deal with decimal fractions. Historically interesting;
currently not practiced, however.
Later that IQ calculation was abandoned, and IQ scores (so called) are
based on a distribution of scores with a known mean and standard deviation
(calculated from large numbers of tests administered). Individual scores in
that distribution can be converted easily to standard scores, which *truly can*
have negative values, because they are relative--in standard deviation units--
to the mean.
Standard scores (Z scores) can be converted to any mean and any standard
deviation one prefers. A mean of 100 recalls the "IQ" numbers of the early
years of the century and is readily comprehended as "normal." A standard
deviation of 15 is convenient, but simply arbitrary (some standard intelligence
tests, if I remember correctly, use 12 instead of 15).
Choosing a mean value low enough and a standard deviation value high
enough can indeed give negative numbers. No hint in any of that about
regression to past lives.
Pat Cabe
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