Annette Taylor wrote:
> If, as I read your summary of the 'no' category, the pervasive
> tone was one of learning irrelevant information, why don't these
> students go to a trade/technical training school? Sounds like
> what they want. Not a general liberal arts education offered by
> the BA/BS degree.
>
> Have you used that notion in advising?
Actually, after the third test in my intro-psych class (which is on
learning--perhaps the toughest one for most students), I suggest to them
(in as positive a way as I can) that, if they do not wish to be in
school right now, perhaps it is best for them to take some time off. I
mention that many students I have known have left school and then come
back at some later time, and that they often do much better because they
now WANT to learn. I also agree with you that social forces probably
lead students to believe that they either get a 4-year degree or work at
McDonald's the rest of their lives. Many teachers also seem to believe
this. There are many other options, I believe, to getting a 4-year
degree, especially when one really does not want to take college
courses.
But I have to get to class,
Jeff
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