Hi all, I'm very sorry about the multiple postings. For each one, I waited over 24 hours before resending the message. For the last post, I retyped it and shortened it a bit because I thought that length might be a problem and perhaps there was something in the message itself which was causing it not to get posted. I think that the farther West one gets in the US, the bigger the problem may be: I have always noticed that people East of here seem able to join in discussions easier than I have been able to (my posts often take too long to get posted). I also notice that many others see my posts before I get them. I don't know enough about the wonders of the Internet to know how things get routed, etc., so I'm not sure what attribution to make. I think that I will stop posting for several days until I am sure that the problem is resolved. You'll probably get this message late next week after I have posted several others! It might be a good idea to always check the date and time a message was sent (in the header) when a person contributes to a thread. This might take care of confusions that sometime arise when one isn't sure what another is responding to. Again, please accept my apologies, Jeff -- Jeffry P. Ricker, Ph.D. Office Phone: (480) 423-6213 9000 E. Chaparral Rd. FAX Number: (480) 423-6298 Psychology Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scottsdale Community College Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 "The truth is rare and never simple." Oscar Wilde "Science must begin with myths and with the criticism of myths" Karl Popper "If you want to learn new things, you should try reading old books." Richard Cytowic