Rick,

My computer crashed this morning while I was reading your note and
I lost my mail.  I'd like to respond, but I'm having a hard time remembering 
everything you wrote, so I apologize if I miss/misinterpret something.

I also feel pressed to say "one more thing," and move on.  I worry that in 
arguing for some inclusion of religion I have run the risk of shoving down the 
throats of our fellow tipsters.  I think we're getting farther away from the 
mission of tips.

You mentioned religious atrocities in this country.  In my patriotism and 
ethnocentricism, I was speaking more of "Gee, I'm luck I'm not discriminated 
against and terrorized for being a Christian."  It seems like no matter where 
you live, being a minority (religious or otherwise) is a tough deal.  

But, I would maintain there is a heckuva lot more freedom of and from religion 
in this country than many others.  Even for religious minorities.  You can say 
anything hateful you want about Jesus and make some enemies (btw, the 
bibles teaches Christians to love their enemies so the treatment should 
remain the same regardless of behavior/ideology) but I don't think you're too 
likely to wind up in jail or six feet under.  

Maybe I should have said I was grateful for how much freedom we do have, 
relatively speaking, instead of implying there is no oppression, religious or 
otherwise.

Christian missionary friends repeatedly tell me I have no idea what it is like 
to live in a country where you can get thrown in jail for publicly professing 
different beliefs than the majority of the country (or even for suspicion of 
doing so).  Certainly there is persecution of religious minorities in this 
country, but I don't see it reaching the degree and frequency that it does 
across the sea.

As far as the churches and ministers you mentioned harrassing, victimizing 
members of a religious minority, well there are kooks no matter where you 
hang your hat.  Just because that happens doesn't necessarily mean it is 
condoned by any kind of majority.

There is certainly no biblical basis for shooting abortion doctors, harrassing 
gays, blowing up government buildings, killing minorities, and just basically 
being a public menace.  I don't care what some church member did, or some 
church, or some minister -- these kinds of acts are not justified by the 
doctrine of Christianity (look it up) and the majority of churchgoers.  

Jim 

P.S.  I am still appreciative of the opportunity to speak my "religious mind" 
on this list and have it to be so tolerated.  I don't think I have too many 
people on my side on some of these issues, but for the most part people 
seem to be pretty professional and intelligent about how they respond to the 
topics and to me.  

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