Nevertheless, the book will go through and be published, if for the only reason that the family can make some money.... and now that their foot is in the door another book will come out written by a (conscious) family member about the trauma they experienced and how they never lost hope... then it will be on Oprah
--Mike On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Paul Brandon <[email protected]> wrote: > A reminder that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, > and that scientists are not experts when they are out of their own field. > (except maybe for a couple of people on this list ;-) > > On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:00 AM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I had pointed out that the extravagent claims through facilitated >> communication (FC) for the consciousness of the comatose >> Rom Houben had been retracted by his neurologist, Steven >> Laureys. >> >> On 18 Feb 2010 at 7:58, Dennis Goff wrote: >> >>> NPR did a good follow-up story yesterday on All Things Considered. >>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123813455 >>> tiny: http://tinyurl.com/ydlmwzq >> >> That's probably the most informative of the sources so far >> available. Still, who except for the hopey-changey elitist >> socialists (and Canadians, but I repeat myself) actually listen to >> NPR? >> >> The fact that Dr. Laureys was so easily fooled by FC makes me >> wonder about the other work he has been involved in, which has >> been published in some of our finest journals (e.g. Boly et al, >> Neuroimage, 2007; see also http://tinyurl.com/yf4bwnj ). There >> the claim is made that consciousness can be determined by >> instructing comatose patients to imagine they are playing tennis, >> while monitoring their brain activity with MRI. This work has >> survived rigorous peer review, and appears to have plenty of >> controls. >> >> Yet given its face implausibility, recent concerns that MRI data >> has a worrisome subjectivity, and Dr. Laurey's inclination to >> swallow stuff which is patently nonsense, one wonders. Perhaps >> someone like Randi needs to be called in to ensure that the >> researchers are not fooling themselves again. >> >> It ha also not escaped my notice that there appears to be a >> surfeit of Stephens on this topic, if we include me and also the >> neurologist Steven Novella, who is quoted for his sceptical >> views on the Houben case. If we can have an organization of >> Steves for Darwin (and we do, including a Steve Darwin for >> Darwin), why not a Steves for consciousness studies too? >> >> Stephen >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. >> Professor of Psychology, Emeritus >> Bishop's University >> e-mail: [email protected] >> 2600 College St. >> Sherbrooke QC J1M 1Z7 >> Canada >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> --- >> You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe click here: >> http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13438.3b5166ef147b143fedd04b1c4a64900b&n=T&l=tips&o=696 >> or send a blank email to >> leave-696-13438.3b5166ef147b143fedd04b1c4a649...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > Paul Brandon > Emeritus Professor of Psychology > Minnesota State University, Mankato > [email protected] > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13541.42a7e8017ab9578358f118300f4720fb&n=T&l=tips&o=697 > or send a blank email to > leave-697-13541.42a7e8017ab9578358f118300f472...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=699 or send a blank email to leave-699-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
